cinereus Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I have all drive set to spin down after 1 hour. I have checked with the File Activity plugin and nothing is showing up. But having left my server for 12+ hours several times the drives never seem to spin down. What else can I check to find out what's going wrong here? Quote Link to comment
SimonF Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, cinereus said: I have all drive set to spin down after 1 hour. I have checked with the File Activity plugin and nothing is showing up. But having left my server for 12+ hours several times the drives never seem to spin down. What else can I check to find out what's going wrong here? Post diagnostics Quote Link to comment
cinereus Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 48 minutes ago, SimonF said: Post diagnostics fs-diagnostics-20221004-2321.zip Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Unfortunately your diagnostics have this problem: https://forums.unraid.net/bug-reports/stable-releases/6110-diagnostics-collection-missing-some-or-all-shares-r2116/ Go to User Shares, click Compute All button at bottom of page, wait for the complete results. If you don't get complete results after a few minutes, refresh page. Then post a screenshot 1 Quote Link to comment
cinereus Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 hours ago, trurl said: Unfortunately your diagnostics have this problem: https://forums.unraid.net/bug-reports/stable-releases/6110-diagnostics-collection-missing-some-or-all-shares-r2116/ Go to User Shares, click Compute All button at bottom of page, wait for the complete results. If you don't get complete results after a few minutes, refresh page. Then post a screenshot Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Your appdata and system shares are all on cache so that is fine. Quote Link to comment
cinereus Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, trurl said: Your appdata and system shares are all on cache so that is fine. So what now? Why are they not spinning down? Quote Link to comment
Kilrah Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Something is accessing them... Try the "Spin down" button on the Main tab, and see if some spin back up and not others, could help isolate what does. If they all spin back up disable turbo/reconstruct writes as when it's on any write will require all disks running. Quote Link to comment
cinereus Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Kilrah said: Something is accessing them... Try the "Spin down" button on the Main tab, and see if some spin back up and not others, could help isolate what does. If they all spin back up disable turbo/reconstruct writes as when it's on any write will require all disks running. Sure but then how do I find out what is accessing them? I just clicked "Spin Down" and they have all stayed down! EDIT: Does this log show SMART checks waking them up? Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdj Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sde Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdb Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc Oct 5 12:13:52 fs emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdi Oct 5 12:13:55 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdj Oct 5 12:24:43 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg Oct 5 12:24:43 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sde Oct 5 12:24:43 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdb Oct 5 12:24:43 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf Oct 5 12:24:43 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdi Oct 5 12:24:53 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh Oct 5 12:24:53 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd Oct 5 12:24:53 fs emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, cinereus said: EDIT: Does this log show SMART checks waking them up? No. Unraid will only attempt to read the SMART information if it thinks the drives are NOT spun down. Quote Link to comment
dlandon Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 You have your appdata share set as cache only, but you have two included disks: [appdata] => Array ( [name] => appdata [include] => disk1,disk2 [exclude] => [useCache] => only [cachePool] => cache ) If you have a share set to cache only, it doesn't make any sense to assign included disks. You have some shares with included disks and some not. I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish, but review all your share allocations. Any that are set as cache only should not have included or excluded disks. Quote Link to comment
cinereus Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, dlandon said: You have your appdata share set as cache only, but you have two included disks: [appdata] => Array ( [name] => appdata [include] => disk1,disk2 [exclude] => [useCache] => only [cachePool] => cache ) If you have a share set to cache only, it doesn't make any sense to assign included disks. You have some shares with included disks and some not. I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish, but review all your share allocations. Any that are set as cache only should not have included or excluded disks. It doesn't seem possible to alter this. The option is greyed out. 1 hour ago, itimpi said: No. Unraid will only attempt to read the SMART information if it thinks the drives are NOT spun down. So we still aren't getting closer to understanding why my disks won't spin down. If I manually spin them down they all start up again shortly afterwards... Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, cinereus said: It doesn't seem possible to alter this. The option is greyed out. You have to stop the array. Let us know if it makes any difference. Quote Link to comment
ChatNoir Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 In your situation, I would remove as many variables as possible from the equation and test them one at a time. In settings, stop Docker and VM managers. Spin down your disks. Do they stay down ? If they do, probably that one or several Docker and/or VM is causing that. Start the services one at a time (not the actual docker/vms) see if it stays down. If so, try one service at a time (or group of services for dockers that work together), etc. If it is still not staying down with every thing shut down, it might be a plugin or network activity scanning shares ( 'helpful' AV or firewall ). Try to isolate all variables. 1 Quote Link to comment
dlandon Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, cinereus said: It doesn't seem possible to alter this. The option is greyed out. Switch to cache "Prefer" then remove the include settings and switch back to cache "Only". Then click "Apply". 2 Quote Link to comment
Kilrah Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, cinereus said: EDIT: Does this log show SMART checks waking them up? Unraid checks smart each time after a disk is spun up, so it's the opposite - something spun them up and smart was read as a result Quote Link to comment
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