Best practice for migrating data off array disks


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I bought a backup server which I need to use some of the disks in my main server for.  When I first set up Unraid I was using the high-water method before I realized the fill-up method works better for me.  I have 143TB of usable space across a number of disks where most of the data is on 3 disks.  I want to remove 5 disks (3 for data and 2 parity) for my backup server.  What is the recommended way for moving this data to the other used disks in order to free up those disks for use in my backup server?

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2 hours ago, Bmalone said:

Just to be clear, you're suggesting to manually move any files on those disks to the appropriate shares and that will not have any unintended consequences?

No, definitely NOT suggesting you move from a disk to a share. That can lead to data loss if you don't know what you are doing.

 

I'm saying move from disk to disk.

 

Both of the tools I mentioned will not allow you to move from disk to share.

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Ok, so using File Manager, selecting the folder Media (in my case) which has TV and Film subfolders, and moving it to another disk as per the images?

 

Also, I just noticed that despite the disks saying there is 126GB of data used on the drives I want to use, the folders are empty.  is this expected?

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Since there wasn't any data on the disks, I followed the procedure below to remove a disk and change the array to remove those disks.  Everything was fine when I restarted the array for about 45 minutes and then I started getting all these errors that my unraidata share was still looking for the removed disks.  I can't delete any shares, run diagnostics, format a disk, parity says it's running but there is no percentage progress showing, and it's basically keeled over and died.  At least I have the backup server now so I can move everything off, wipe it, and start again from scratch.  I don't know if the documentation needs to be updated or if there are fundamental issues with Unraid, but removing disks was a complete fail.  Below is what I got in the 'fix common problems' plugin.  I've tried to follow the guidance, but Unraid just hangs and doesn't do anything.  Diagnostics has been running for 20 minutes now, but if it does complete, I'll post it here before I wipe the install and begin again.1640112405_StudioSnippet2024-03-20at21_08_03.thumb.jpg.0d0faafd035d38b2299e7694d3064414.jpg

 

Removing data disk(s)

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Removing a disk from the array is possible, but normally requires you to once again sync your parity disk(s) after doing so. This means that until the parity sync completes, the array is vulnerable to data loss should any disk in the array fail.

To remove a disk from your array, perform the following steps:

Stop the array
(optional) Make note if your disk assignments under the main tab (for both the array and cache; some find it helpful to take a screenshot)
Perform the Reset the array configuration procedure. When doing this it is a good idea to use the option to preserve all current assignments to avoid you having to re-enter them (and possibly make a mistake doing so).
Make sure all your previously assigned disks are there and set the drive you want removed to be Unassigned
Start the array without checking the 'Parity is valid' box.
A parity-sync will occur if at least one parity disk is assigned and until that operation completes, the array is vulnerable to data loss should a disk failure occur.

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Reset the array configuration

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you can reset your disk configuration from the new config page

Reset the array configuration

you can reset your disk configuration from the new config page

If you wish to remove a disk from the array or you simply wish to start from scratch to build your array configuration, there is a tool in Unraid that will do this for you. To reset the array configuration, perform the following steps:

Navigate to the Tools page and click New Config
You can (optionally) elect to have the system preserve some of the current assignments while resetting the array. This can be very useful if you only intend to make a small change as it avoids you having to re-enter the details of the disks you want to leave unchanged.
Click the checkbox confirming that you want to do this and then click apply to perform the operation
Return to the Main tab and your configuration will have been reset
Make any adjustments to the configuration that you want.
Start the array to commit the configuration. You can start in Normal or Maintenance mode.
 

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The messages will be valid if you explicitly gave a list of included disks in the definition of the share rather than leaving it at the default of ‘all’ and did not go into the settings for the share to adjust the list after removing the disks.

 

 However no reason that would have caused the system to lock up like you describe sp I suspect you have some other problem.

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Is there a command to stop the parity check?  I can’t even move any data off because it’s running, and it’s stuck annd not progressing, and I don’t really want to be forced to wipe the system with all the data on it.

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36 minutes ago, Bmalone said:

Is there a command to stop the parity check?  I can’t even move any data off because it’s running, and it’s stuck annd not progressing, and I don’t really want to be forced to wipe the system with all the data on it.

I thought you said the system was 'frozen'   If not there is a Cancel button on the Main tab.

 

If it is frozen then it has probably crashed and you will need to hold down the power button to force a powerdown and then reboot .  The system should then reload with all data intact.    If that is the case then you should consider enabling the syslog server (probably with the mirror to flash option set) so we can get a syslog that survives a reboot.

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It's not frozen, it's just that you can't do anything useful.  No file operations seem to work, delete, copy, create, etc.  I had to remove the parity drives complexly as the cancel button doesn't work.  The syslog is just constantly throwing errors and since no file operations work, nothing can be exported.  This is all I get.  Even Dynamix File Manager has lost the ability to do anything.  Where there are usually tick boxes for files and then you can select a file operation, that is not even displaying.  The only thing I can find that works is to cut, not copy, data from Windows Explorer.  A roboot from Main gives an unclean shutdown and brings it back up with constant errors.

 

The only information I can get it just this never-ending flow of errors since removing the drives.

 

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Mar 21 09:32:48 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:48 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:32:48 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:48 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:32:49 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:49 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:32:52 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:52 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:32:54 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:54 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:32:54 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:54 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:32:55 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:55 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:32:58 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:58 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:00 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:00 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:00 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:00 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:01 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:01 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:04 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:04 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:06 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:06 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:06 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:06 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:07 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:07 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:10 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:10 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:12 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:12 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:12 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:12 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:13 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:13 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:16 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:16 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:18 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:18 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:18 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:18 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:19 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:19 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:22 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:22 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
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Mar 21 09:33:24 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:24 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:25 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:25 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:27 Goathead webGUI: Successful login user root from 192.168.30.252
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Mar 21 09:33:28 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:28 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
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Mar 21 09:33:30 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:30 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:31 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:31 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:34 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:34 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:36 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:36 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:36 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:36 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:37 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:37 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:40 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:40 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:42 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:42 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:42 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:42 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:43 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:43 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:46 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:46 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:48 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:48 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:48 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:48 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:49 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:49 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:52 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:52 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:33:54 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:54 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:33:54 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:54 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:55 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:55 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:33:58 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:33:58 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:34:00 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:00 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:34:00 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:00 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:34:01 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:01 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:34:04 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:04 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:34:06 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:06 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:34:06 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:06 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:34:07 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:07 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:34:10 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:10 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?dir=%2Fmnt%2Fuser%2Fdownloads%2Fincomplete%2Fincomplete%2FBloodline%20%282015%29%20Season%2003%20S03%20%281080p%20NF%20WEBRip%20x265%20HEVC%2010bit%20AAC%205.1%20Qman%29%20%5BUTR%5D"
Mar 21 09:34:12 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:12 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Docker"
Mar 21 09:34:12 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:12 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"
Mar 21 09:34:13 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:34:13 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Main"

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2 hours ago, Bmalone said:

Mar 21 09:32:40 Goathead nginx: 2024/03/21 09:32:40 [error] 11800#11800: *53866 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 192.168.30.112, server: , request: "POST /plugins/dynamix.my.servers/include/unraid-api.php HTTP/2.0", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock:", host: "192.168.30.170", referrer: "https://192.168.30.170/Shares/Browse?

See here:

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/154030-6128-log-spammed-with-references-to-unraid-apiphp/

 

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1 hour ago, trurl said:

Reboot, Uninstall My Servers plugin, post diagnostics

I can't boot in normal mode, only safe mode, and in safe mode there are no plugins in the GUI.  Shall I try the command below?

 

Open an Unraid terminal

Run the following command

cat /boot/config/plugins/dynamix.my.servers/myservers.cfg

If that returns data, then we need to delete that file.

Delete the file with this command

rm /boot/config/plugins/dynamix.my.servers/myservers.cfg

Then refresh your Unraid webgui

 

I can't run Diagnostic.  Let it run last night and it ran for 17 hours and still didn't complete.

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Some of the errors are back.

 

a/master/web/gui/dashboard/images/ms-icon-310x310.png
Mar 21 13:51:26 Goathead kernel: TCP: request_sock_TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 56574. Sending cookies.  Check SNMP counters.
Mar 21 13:53:01 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems Version 2024.03.09
Mar 21 13:53:01 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Same share (guacamole) exists in a different case
Mar 21 13:53:01 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Same share (Guacamole) exists in a different case
Mar 21 13:53:02 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Warning: Docker Application homarr has an update available for it ** Ignored
Mar 21 13:53:02 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Warning: Docker Application Unraid-Cloudflared-Tunnel has an update available for it
Mar 21 13:53:07 Goathead root: netdata-glibc: Could not download icon https://raw.githubusercontent.com/netdata/netdata/master/web/gui/dashboard/images/ms-icon-310x310.png
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk6 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk7 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk8 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk9 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk10 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk11 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: netdata-glibc: Could not download icon https://raw.githubusercontent.com/netdata/netdata/master/web/gui/dashboard/images/ms-icon-310x310.png
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: netdata-glibc: Could not download icon https://raw.githubusercontent.com/netdata/netdata/master/web/gui/dashboard/images/ms-icon-310x310.png
Mar 21 13:53:11 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Warning: Share appdata set to use pool containers_cache, but files / folders exist on the vm_cache pool
Mar 21 13:53:11 Goathead sSMTP[21970]: Creating SSL connection to host
Mar 21 13:53:11 Goathead sSMTP[21970]: SSL connection using TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
Mar 21 13:53:13 Goathead sSMTP[21970]: Sent mail for [email protected] (221 2.0.0 closing connection f9-20020a814149000000b00609f8c5dfd3sm47462ywk.130 - gsmtp) uid=0 username=root outbytes=1541

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1 hour ago, Bmalone said:

Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk6 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk7 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk8 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk9 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk10 set in its included disk settings
Mar 21 13:53:09 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Share unraiddata has disk11 set in its included disk settings

If you want to restrict a share so it only goes to a few disks, Include is the right idea. If you want to restrict a share so it doesn't go to a few disks, Exclude is the right idea. Never use Include and Exclude together.

 

Looks like you tried to include a lot of disks you no longer have. Better to Include All instead of specific disks that might not exist.

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25 minutes ago, itimpi said:

Have you done anything to start correcting those reported problems which all look like they are probably genuine.

It's not clear how to fix the shares looking for drives that aren't there.  I haven't selected any specific disks and checking them, they are all set to all.

 

The Guacamole share was one I created, but then when I mapped a Windows drive to that in Guacamole, it created an additional one.  I tried using Dynamix File Manager to delete it and that made everything unresponsive, so no, I've been afraid to touch it again.  At least all my containers are working now and I can read/write files, which is good enough to move all the data onto the new server while I wipe it and start afresh.

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According to the diagnostics the ‘unraidddata’ share DOES have a list of included drives in its settings.   If you think that is not the case then perhaps a screenshot of the settings page for that share might clarify things?
 

appdata                           shareUseCache="prefer"  # Share exists on containers_cache, disk1, disk3, vm_cache

This appears to be an outstanding issue as well as the files on the ‘vm_cache’ pool will remain there as it is not associated with that share.

 

Mar 21 13:53:01 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Same share (guacamole) exists in a different case
Mar 21 13:53:01 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Same share (Guacamole) exists in a different case

It appears this may also be outstanding.    It can cause an issue as SMB will ignore one of them as it is not case significant despite the fact the underlying Linux system is.

 

M---a                             shareUseCache="no"      # Share exists on disk3, disk4, downloads_cache

Mover will leave the files that are on the ‘downloads_cache’ pool as that share is set so that mover will ignore it.

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4 minutes ago, itimpi said:

According to the diagnostics the ‘unraidddata’ share DOES have a list of included drives in its settings.

AFAIK the problem is that once a drive was removed the UI doesn't show it in the list anymore so while it's still in the config file you can't see or unselect it in the UI.

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you could try editing the config/shares/unraiddata,cfg file on the flash drive to adjust the list of included drives.

 

i must admit i thought that making any change to the list and using Apply would rewrite the values to reflect the new selection

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2 minutes ago, itimpi said:

According to the diagnostics the ‘unraidddata’ share DOES have a list of included drives in its settings.   If you think that is not the case then perhaps a screenshot of the settings page for that share might clarify things?
See image of the settings.  Seems like the GUI doesn't accurately reflect the actual settings.

appdata                           shareUseCache="prefer"  # Share exists on containers_cache, disk1, disk3, vm_cache

This appears to be an outstanding issue as well as the files on the ‘vm_cache’ pool will remain there as it is not associated with that share.

I want the app data for my Windows VM on the cache I have specifically for client VMs, not on the containers cache which has the AppData share and containers.

Mar 21 13:53:01 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Same share (guacamole) exists in a different case
Mar 21 13:53:01 Goathead root: Fix Common Problems: Error: Same share (Guacamole) exists in a different case

It appears this may also be outstanding.    It can cause an issue as SMB will ignore one of them as it is not case significant despite the fact the underlying Linux system is.

I understand that, putting aside how the share was duplicated, I was not able to delete one or any of them.  Happy to try out some suggestions if you have one.

M---a                             shareUseCache="no"      # Share exists on disk3, disk4, downloads_cache

Mover will leave the files that are on the ‘downloads_cache’ pool as that share is set so that mover will ignore it.

I have that set to move from array to cache.  That's where my torrent downloads land, and I want to move them manually to the ingestion cache which feeds the shares when I want.  If it fills up, I expect it will spill over to the array, and then when I free up space, my expectation is mover will move as much as it can back to the cache.  Is that not correct?

 

I've added screen shots of the GUI settings too.

AppData Share Settings.JPG

AppData Share Settings.JPG

backups share settings.JPG

domains share settings.JPG

Downloads share settings.JPG

guacamole share settings.JPG

iso share settings.JPG

system share settings.JPG

transcoding share settings.JPG

unraiddata share setting.JPG

windows share settings.JPG

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5 minutes ago, itimpi said:

you could try editing the config/shares/unraiddata,cfg file on the flash drive to adjust the list of included drives.

 

i must admit i thought that making any change to the list and using Apply would rewrite the values to reflect the new selection

Is that somewhere on the flash drive?

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