michael123 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hi Are there any issues with this HDD? Like green activity led light always on, noise, performance? thanks, Quote Link to comment
Alexandro Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 No issues which i have noticed so far. Just don't forget to run WDidle3 on them. Otherwise you will have a high level of LCC in a very short period of time. Quote Link to comment
BobPhoenix Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 No issues which i have noticed so far. Just don't forget to run WDidle3 on them. Otherwise you will have a high level of LCC in a very short period of time. Actually that is not always the case it depends on how you use your system. If your drives spend 90%+ of there time in idle mode like mine do (although I have the 2TB EARS not 3TB) my LCC's are barely over the power on hours for some and UNDER the power on hours for others. The only WD drive I've ever had a high LCC on was a refurbished EADS drive and it came that way. I have NEVER used WDIDLE3 on my drives. I think if you write to your array drives more often it can be a problem. But if you copy/write once and read many it will not as big of a problem. Quote Link to comment
Alexandro Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I may assure you that I am not writing constantly on the drive but wd30ezrx had something like 7000 lcc for a week. After applying wdiddle3 the lcc are behaving like on my wd blacks. I have heard that not all of the wd30ezrx series suffer from this issue but I have one of this with problems for sure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
theone Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I may assure you that I am not writing constantly on the drive but wd30ezrx had something like 7000 lcc for a week. After applying wdiddle3 the lcc are behaving like on my wd blacks. I have heard that not all of the wd30ezrx series suffer from this issue but I have one of this with problems for sure. What have you used "disable" or "/s300" ? Quote Link to comment
BobPhoenix Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Here is a smart report on one of my WD 2TB EARS drives: smartctl 5.40 2010-10-16 r3189 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Green (Adv. Format) family Device Model: WDC WD20EARS-00J2GB0 Serial Number: WD-WCAYY0222803 Firmware Version: 80.00A80 User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is: Mon Aug 13 15:59:35 2012 CDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity was suspended by an interrupting command from host. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (39600) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 255) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x3031) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 158 156 021 Pre-fail Always - 9091 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1324 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 080 080 000 Old_age Always - 15052 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 224 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 161 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 198 198 000 Old_age Always - 8220 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 126 117 000 Old_age Always - 26 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. As you can see the LCC count is just about half the power on hours. And I'm NOT saying it isn't necessary. I just don't think it should be something that is done without running without it first and checking. If you don't see a significant change in a short period of time then that drive doesn't need it. Like mine above. Quote Link to comment
Alexandro Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 What have you used "disable" or "/s300" ? I used "/s300" Quote Link to comment
smakovits Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 What have you used "disable" or "/s300" ? I used "/s300" What's the difference? Just added 2 replacement drives because of high lcc and did 300 on them Quote Link to comment
theone Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 /s300 sets the parking to 300 seconds (5 minutes) instead of the default 8 seconds. /d disables the parking altogether but there is a performance degradation when using this on the WD30EZRX drives (search the web). Quote Link to comment
smakovits Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 so the only reason one would use s300 vs /d is because they have an EZRX drive? Just curious if it matters otherwise, I dont have an EZRX yet, just EARX, EARS and EADS Quote Link to comment
mr-hexen Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 can this be executed in a unraid telnet prompt or must you boot to a DOS boot disk first? Quote Link to comment
Alexandro Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Only in dos environment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
B1G Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Just went on WD website. WDiddle has this warning... This utility is designed to upgrade the firmware of the following hard drives: WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0, WD7500AYPS-01ZKB0, WD7501AYPS-01ZKB0. Wern't you worried about using it on the EZRX ? Quote Link to comment
Ookami313 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Just went on WD website. WDiddle has this warning... This utility is designed to upgrade the firmware of the following hard drives: WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0, WD7500AYPS-01ZKB0, WD7501AYPS-01ZKB0. Wern't you worried about using it on the EZRX ? I'm in the middle of preclearing my first WD30EZRX and was wondering the same thing. I decided not to run WDIdle on it because of that warning. Any clue if there would be any adverse affects by running it on a drive that it's not designed for? Quote Link to comment
theone Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I used it with /s 300 (not /d) and works OK. They also don't recommend using it for the EARS and EARX series and lots of peaple do use it (including me). I had the LLC issue with my EARS drives and this solved it. Quote Link to comment
mr-hexen Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Worked ok on two of mine. Quote Link to comment
mumus Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Worked ok on two of mine. Could you please indicate how you did it? I have 3 drives, same model (WD30EZRX) in a HP microserver N40L. Currently my BIOS setting for SATA mode is set to AHCI, should I change this for the purpose of running wdidle3? I plan on loading freedos on a spare bootable usb stick using unetbootin and copy there wdidle3.exe as well. Then I'll run it once for all 3 disks(?) Is this the proper way of doing this? Also, I just got a 2.5" WD Scorpio Blue 1TB (WD10JPVT) which will be my cache disk. Does anyone know if it's possible/how to change the Intelli Park setting on this model? Quote Link to comment
mr-hexen Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 sorry my drives were WD30EZRs. I have a EZRX on its way back from RMA, i'll let you know then. Quote Link to comment
mumus Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 sorry my drives were WD30EZRs. I have a EZRX on its way back from RMA, i'll let you know then. Thanks. Looking forward to reading your feedback. Cheers. Quote Link to comment
tucansam Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 http://idle3-tools.sourceforge.net/ I used this. I had to install the gcc stuff so I could run make. Now I have this tool forever on my server and can address any new WD drive I put in it (I plan on using all WD greens). No need for DOS or a boot disk. Quote Link to comment
mumus Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Great, will give it a try and update. Thanks Sam Quote Link to comment
bugleboy Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Hi, I recently built a new unraid server using 2 brand new WD30EZRX (1 parity, 1 data) and an existing Hitachi 2TB drive i had used previously in my HTPC. I have attached smart reports from the 2 EZRX drives the LCC are slightly higher than power on, but i'm not certain if these are acceptable numbers or a should they be lower than the power on. Can anyone advise. I have installed the Gcc tools and compiled the idle3-tools that tucansam sugested a few posts back and the current setting on both drives is as follows using command idle3ctl -g /dev/sdx "Idle3 timer set to 80 (0x50)" Default command using command idle3ctl -g105 /dev/sdx "Idle3 timer set to 8.0s (0x50)" Command to format output in same format as WDidle v1.05 I haven't made any changes yet since i'm not certain if my drives have an issue. Just looking for any advise or input on wether or not i need to make any changes and what changes should be made if needed. Thanks Bugleboy Statistics for /dev/sda WDC_WD30EZRX-00DC0B0_WD-WMC1T0341622 smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda smartctl 5.40 2010-10-16 r3189 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: WDC WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 Serial Number: WD-WMC1T0341622 Firmware Version: 80.00A80 User Capacity: 3,000,592,982,016 bytes Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 9 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is: Tue Oct 9 10:03:48 2012 EDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (39240) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 255) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x70b5) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 177 177 021 Pre-fail Always - 6125 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 34 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 235 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 15 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 14 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 261 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 128 118 000 Old_age Always - 22 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. Statistics for /dev/sdb WDC_WD30EZRX-00DC0B0_WD-WMC1T0344560 smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sdb smartctl 5.40 2010-10-16 r3189 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: WDC WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 Serial Number: WD-WMC1T0344560 Firmware Version: 80.00A80 User Capacity: 3,000,592,982,016 bytes Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 9 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is: Tue Oct 9 10:07:01 2012 EDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity was suspended by an interrupting command from host. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (40560) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 255) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x70b5) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 179 178 021 Pre-fail Always - 6041 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 23 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 257 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 9 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 6 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 356 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 131 118 000 Old_age Always - 19 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. Quote Link to comment
mr-hexen Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 yes those are the poor settings (8.0s). change it to 300. Quote Link to comment
BobPhoenix Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Personally I wouldn't worry about it yet. Yours are still quite low so you may not need to do anything. Just make sure you watch it and take action if they start to climb faster than your poweron hours. Quote Link to comment
dgaschk Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Even 2 or 3 times the power on hours is fine. I've seen no evidence that high LCC counts cause issues in any case. Quote Link to comment
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