nicr4wks Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 @comet424 the version you have installed does not include the addons. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hassio-on-unraid/59959 https://www.juanmtech.com/get-started-with-node-red-and-home-assistant/ https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mqtt/ Quote Link to comment
nicr4wks Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 .xz is a compressed file. use tar on unraid or 7zip/winrar on windows. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 @nicr4wks oh ok ill watch and read up gonna take a couple hours to download i got slow internet so is the home assistant core like unraid and the home assist hasso is like the community apps for unraid it has the better version and how come community apps as home assistant core.. shouldnt it have home assistant hasso as its better right? or can the hasso be installed into the core so it runs on the docker? whats the purpose of it there.. so much for being a easy setup in docker... but for the time being guess ill read those articles to kill time for this to download i appreciate the help so far Quote Link to comment
nicr4wks Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The differences are explained here: https://www.home-assistant.io/faq/ha-vs-hassio/ You should really create your own thread on the HA forums or HA reddit. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 @nicr4wks i did post on Home assistant forums there is no Unraid Docker install setup on there and when i googled unraid it gave me the Home Asisstant Unraid page which is this one.. so i posted in here because it Unraid related and i never use reddit been told to stay away from reddit.. but ill keep waiting in Home assistant forums then Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 It is worth pointing out that any information regarding running the app in a docker container should still apply regardless of the platform hosting docker. The main thing special about docker on Unraid is the support for templates that make installing and. configuring docker containers easy and the handling of such templates integrated into the Community Applications plugin. Quote Link to comment
danioj Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) @comet424 here is my2c. Home assistant is in its purest sense is Home Assistant Core. This can typically be installed on any Linux OS (although the HA devs would love to stop supporting that method of installation AFAIK) but it seems to me that the most suggested installation is via Docker. Hass.io is an OS that comes pre packed with Home Assistant Core AND with Docker running as well as a Docker “Assistant” that can be accessed within Home Assistant Core to manage the containers. This allows you to install “Addons” like MQTT etc but in essence as it is a Docker implementation you can pretty much install any Docker on it, and people do. This is way Hass.io either is run on a machine (like a Pi or NUC) or a VM in unRAID. Most people who use unRAID that I know of, myself included, see running a VM, which has an OS and ANOTHER version of Docker (however simple it might be to use that Docker version via the Hass.io assistant) as an unneeded extra layer of virtualisation. Therefore I install my HA related Docker Containers (Hass.io Add-Ons) on unRAID directly and point Home Assistant at them. Yes, I don’t have the fancy Hass.io supervisor but I like the control and don’t mind the extra layer of “complexity” of doing so. By also running on unRAID I can have all the network goodies (like running a Docker container on its own IP etc). There is an argument to suggest that running Hass.io in a VM keeps the whole thing contained and all you have to do to keep your automation hub safe is back up the VM file but I back up everything anyway. Hope this helps. Edited December 21, 2020 by danioj Quote Link to comment
mrbilky Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 13 hours ago, comet424 said: @nicr4wks i guess this setup be the one i want? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hassio-on-unraid/59959 i currently downloading the qcow2.xz file and i guess you rename the qcow2.xz to .qcow2 That is how I did it has been rock solid since install Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 i new at it all i figured was i load it up in the docker and id have no issues with this program so i can control 2 raspberry pis with push buttons like on a cell phone icon... so far far docker i dunno how you install the addons and using the qcow2 i did that one now and when i install the Node to make click boxes i was watching youtube video well that didnt work i get a 02 bad gateway so i cant win either way lol i figured this home assistant was a better way then trying to find a way of making 2 websites on 2 raspberry pis to run 3 relays on each.. or trying to figure how to run 1 website on unraid that controls 2 rasp berry pis.. but been a headache and then i learned of home assistant but its not panning out either least at the moment i wanted to go the docker way with the apps.. be nice if the docker version would install the addons and whatever hass has but i havent gotten any farther then install it and try to install Node gave up after 30 min trying to get Node to work Quote Link to comment
mrbilky Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, comet424 said: i new at it all i figured was i load it up in the docker and id have no issues with this program so i can control 2 raspberry pis with push buttons like on a cell phone icon... so far far docker i dunno how you install the addons and using the qcow2 i did that one now and when i install the Node to make click boxes i was watching youtube video well that didnt work i get a 02 bad gateway so i cant win either way lol i figured this home assistant was a better way then trying to find a way of making 2 websites on 2 raspberry pis to run 3 relays on each.. or trying to figure how to run 1 website on unraid that controls 2 rasp berry pis.. but been a headache and then i learned of home assistant but its not panning out either least at the moment i wanted to go the docker way with the apps.. be nice if the docker version would install the addons and whatever hass has but i havent gotten any farther then install it and try to install Node gave up after 30 min trying to get Node to work What do you mean when you say "node" are you trying to create a node red flow? If you are trying to control relays why use a raspberry pi why not wire up a relay bank be it 2 ,4 ,or 8 relays with a nodemcu or a D1 mini and flash it with tasmota integrate with MQTT within homeassistant Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 well the docker has no apps.. as for node.. i mean "NODE-RED" needs to be installed but you cant there are no options as i need 6 buttons on the screen i want 6 buttons like your cell phone that will be Red for Off and when your click it it will go Green now i seen a video you need "Node-Red " running well Node Red is only offered on Hassio Home Assistant.. and i installed that in a VM but Node-Red doesnt work its got Fatal Errors.. and i posted on the home assistant site seeing if they can fix it .. why use raspberry pi? cuz thats what i have running to control a pump and some lights .. i ahve no idea what a nodemcu or a D1 mini is i only know a Arduino and Raspberry Pi.. and prior to this home assistant.. i only know of running apachine on a raspberry pi and you make a website to toggle a website to turn on and off.. and then i was going to try to get unraid webserver to turn on and off 2 raspberry pis switchs.. and since Ardunios are ok i dunno if you can do it with an arduino.. and when you google projects.. you only make projects with arduinos or a raspberry pi so i wouldnt know anything about a tasmota D1 mini or a nodemcu dont know anything about those.. i still new at this stuff Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) so i looked up D1 mini and the nodemcu dunno how you add a Cat5 cable and a power cord to it? as how you run it with it? as i need to to run 200 feet away where the raspberry Pi in summer waters the garden.. so the nodemcu d1 mini need a Cat5 plugged directly running Garden Pi software and then in the house i run Cat5 i dont bother wifi as wifi is always unstable so id want cat5 plugged into to be connected.. as wifi goes down all the time so i went with Raspberry pi 4 for the garden app and then controlling relays like light and a pump because of the website plus running cron tab to change times when relays come on... i wouldnt know anything how to do that with those 2 other devices i not up to date with all that technology but ill look into this more depth always learning and if ican make it cheaper then a raspberry pi i would Edited December 21, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
mrbilky Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, comet424 said: well the docker has no apps.. as for node.. i mean "NODE-RED" needs to be installed but you cant there are no options as i need 6 buttons on the screen i want 6 buttons like your cell phone that will be Red for Off and when your click it it will go Green now i seen a video you need "Node-Red " running well Node Red is only offered on Hassio Home Assistant.. and i installed that in a VM but Node-Red doesnt work its got Fatal Errors.. and i posted on the home assistant site seeing if they can fix it .. why use raspberry pi? cuz thats what i have running to control a pump and some lights .. i ahve no idea what a nodemcu or a D1 mini is i only know a Arduino and Raspberry Pi.. and prior to this home assistant.. i only know of running apachine on a raspberry pi and you make a website to toggle a website to turn on and off.. and then i was going to try to get unraid webserver to turn on and off 2 raspberry pis switchs.. and since Ardunios are ok i dunno if you can do it with an arduino.. and when you google projects.. you only make projects with arduinos or a raspberry pi so i wouldnt know anything about a tasmota D1 mini or a nodemcu dont know anything about those.. i still new at this stuff Well with no wifi your options are limited have tried to install homeassistant directly on your pi this is really leaving unRAID out of the equation and this should be discussed on the homeassistant forums not sure why you are having problems with the qcow2 option I have all of the apps running Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 well thats why i use Raspberry pi you can run network cable directly to pi.. and you can change your software from any computer with like the ardunio you can only change your program uploading it.. and i guess thats the same the mini D1 and the other one.. plus you cant run more then 1 program at 1 time and you got that issue where like the arduino it stuck in an endless loop and you need to know how to program it to not get stuck in an endless loop and i finally got the cow2 file to work.. no what i was saying is i wanted the Docker version of Home Assistant to have the Node-REd option and you cant,.. and i asked iin here .because 1.. community apps home assistant is a specific for Unraid... since all those apps are only for unraid... and home assistant webstate hasnt replied.. to adding the Addons to Unraid Docker no havent tried the Raspberry pi Home Assistant i downloaded it because i watched video you install it on the Raspberry Pi you snap shot it then you install it on Unraid so it looks like the Raspberry Pi... and if you install Home assistant on a raspberry pi that means if the 1 running it goes down then the other pi is usless.. so thats why i trying to run it on unraid, as a docker full blown all the features.. but apparently you cant.. you can only run full blown as VM and the video i watched had to watch another .. you had to change the configuration of the password for Node Red to the user account password.. and change SSL to False from True.. i got that part to work .. but now there are no inputs.. video talked about adding a event state change box.. and when you click it and goto Event ID... you need to add input_boolen_computer well that one doesnt exisit none of them exisit.. just sun, zone.home,binary_sensors.. so i asked since its an old video from 2019 do you need to add something else Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) https://www.juanmtech.com/get-started-with-node-red-and-home-assistant/ this the video i followed after to fix the Node-Red but i cant get the input like he has only sun binary sensor home zone and a couple others but guy doesnt even show how he gets home assistant cell phone size display to show up on his screen after he makes his switch Edited December 21, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
ajgriglak Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Tried some of the things in this thread but didn't work... Found this, which DID work and was quick and easy: Quote Link to comment
Jayg37 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I've just started moving my to my new unraid server via DigiBlur's supervised container. I'm struggling with how to point the Hassio media folder to my music share. Has anyone figured this out? I never had much luck using this feature in the past but thought it would be easier with unraid since my media and HA are now on the same machine. Quote Link to comment
mrbilky Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Jayg37 said: I've just started moving my to my new unraid server via DigiBlur's supervised container. I'm struggling with how to point the Hassio media folder to my music share. Has anyone figured this out? I never had much luck using this feature in the past but thought it would be easier with unraid since my media and HA are now on the same machine. Yep I had many problems as well I switched to a VM and never looked back it just works plus since it's the OS version you get the supervisor and access to all the other features like snap shots Quote Link to comment
Jayg37 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) @mrbilky I would have gone that route if DigiBlur hadn't created a supervised docker container. I enjoy the supervisor function as the non supervised version takes a bit more work. I managed to create symlink to my Music share via ln -s /var/tmp/testarea/dir1 dir2 root@server:/mnt/user/appdata/hassio/media# ln -s /mnt/user/Music music This method works as i can navigate to the Music share via SMB but HA refuses to show the Music folder within the media folder. Restarted HA. Edited March 26, 2021 by Jayg37 mistyped path for symlink exanple Quote Link to comment
mrbilky Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 9:52 AM, Jayg37 said: @mrbilky I would have gone that route if DigiBlur hadn't created a supervised docker container. I enjoy the supervisor function as the non supervised version takes a bit more work. I managed to create symlink to my Music share via ln -s /var/tmp/testarea/dir1 dir2 root@server:/mnt/user/appdata/hassio/media# ln -s /mnt/user/Music music This method works as i can navigate to the Music share via SMB but HA refuses to show the Music folder within the media folder. Restarted HA. Yeah I tried that route but it was wonky and had too many issues I tried the recommended settings and just couldn't get a stable instance maybe something I was not doing but the method that I now have has been rock solid for a year or so with no complications related to the VM and I did this with the QCOW VM not sure if that's what makes it stable I install this on top of a linux VM Quote Link to comment
Vr2Io Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Running HASSIO on Pi2 then Pi3, after 3rd time SD card dead then swith to USB stick ..... With consider upgrade cost of Pi4, finally running in VM on SSD. Response or bootup time really great. I can't believe that writing request was so high, that's why always destory small piece flash media. Edited March 29, 2021 by Vr2Io Quote Link to comment
mrbilky Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 19 hours ago, Vr2Io said: Running HASSIO on Pi2 then Pi3, after 3rd time SD card dead then swith to USB stick ..... With consider upgrade cost of Pi4, finally running in VM on SSD. Response or bootup time really great. I can't believe that writing request was so high, that's why always destory small piece flash media. Yep right after I switched over to a VM they came out with native support for an SSD on the pi go figure but no regrets its been rock solid since starting it 1 Quote Link to comment
Jayg37 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) So i tried the digiblur supervised docker version and was unable to get the stability out of it that i need in a home automation system. Mainly containers would orphan or stop then not come back online. So i moved to a VM on my unraid server. I followed the videos online but for some reason every time i take a snapshot (using HA snapshot tool) my USB zigbee serial device is removed from the VM. I have to edit the VM (not really do anything as the USB is checked for passthrough still) then restart and all is good...until the next time. Edit: Just created another snapshot to grab logs and could not replicate the USB being removed. I'm puzzled as to why it get's removed from HA? I'll update if i can replicate the issue. What am i missing and why does the USB port get removed from my VM? This has been great going from my RPI4 but it has to work consistently. Side note: i cannot edit the VM icon without the USB passthrough disappearing as well. I can only get one or the other...icon or usb. odd behavior. Edited April 21, 2021 by Jayg37 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) @Jayg37 i not sure.. i have it running in unraid VM i used https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ha-os-on-unraid/59959 i copied the qcow2 file to a directory on the VMS's and then resized the drive to 20gb and started it up and it runs stable im running it on a Asus Tuf Gaming Board x570 board with 3600x i also found i needed to do 4GB of ram i found setting it at 2GB didnt run right.. id try jumping from 2 to 4.. it can run on 2gb on a real pi but i found i couldnt do it on the VM so give it a try resize 4GB to 20GB once you set it up and set it to 4gb ram not the 2gb it may work then for your USB also there is section in unraid you do the break up all the usbs soundcard etc into different groups i forget what it that is at the moment but give that a try upgrade ram etc ive been running like 6 months now stable i also followed this video too but jumped ahead as we dont need to rename the file https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbzZjnCSEjs and and dijiblur guy also installed that version as a docker not a VM unless hes got another video.. as when i did my VM there was no supervised home assistant.. just core so i running the Home Assistant OS not Supervised as i run it as a VM Edited April 21, 2021 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
Jayg37 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the reply @comet424. I've upped my disk size to 32gb and my ram to 4gb. i wasn't able to figure out the grouping you mentioned but will continue to look. Quote also there is section in unraid you do the break up all the usbs soundcard etc into different groups i forget what it that is at the moment but give that a try upgrade ram etc I'll post up if the usb issue occurs again. Edited April 22, 2021 by Jayg37 Quote Link to comment
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