July 19, 201510 yr Hi all. Just upgraded to to v6 and all went well. The problem I am having is after being up for about an hour the GUI is unresponsive. I can telnet into the server or watch a movie just fine. It's doing a parity check now since I couldn't stop the server. Any info you might need just let me know. Thanks. From telnet or console, typediagnostics Get the diagnostics zip file from the logs folder on your flash drive and post it. This is what I get when I run it. Parity check still going, but no GUI. went almost 5 1/2 hours this time. Tower login: root Linux 4.0.4-unRAID. Last login: Sun Jul 19 15:15:17 -0400 2015 on /dev/pts/0 from Chrissys.home. root@Tower:~# diagnostics cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/config/*.conf’: No such file or directory root@Tower:~#
July 19, 201510 yr Hi all. Just upgraded to to v6 and all went well. The problem I am having is after being up for about an hour the GUI is unresponsive. I can telnet into the server or watch a movie just fine. It's doing a parity check now since I couldn't stop the server. Any info you might need just let me know. Thanks. From telnet or console, typediagnostics Get the diagnostics zip file from the logs folder on your flash drive and post it. This is what I get when I run it. Parity check still going, but no GUI. went almost 5 1/2 hours this time. Tower login: root Linux 4.0.4-unRAID. Last login: Sun Jul 19 15:15:17 -0400 2015 on /dev/pts/0 from Chrissys.home. root@Tower:~# diagnostics cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/config/*.conf’: No such file or directory root@Tower:~# The file is still created, the error message can be ignored.
July 20, 201510 yr Hi all. Just upgraded to to v6 and all went well. The problem I am having is after being up for about an hour the GUI is unresponsive. I can telnet into the server or watch a movie just fine. It's doing a parity check now since I couldn't stop the server. Any info you might need just let me know. Thanks. From telnet or console, typediagnostics Get the diagnostics zip file from the logs folder on your flash drive and post it. This is what I get when I run it. Parity check still going, but no GUI. went almost 5 1/2 hours this time. Tower login: root Linux 4.0.4-unRAID. Last login: Sun Jul 19 15:15:17 -0400 2015 on /dev/pts/0 from Chrissys.home. root@Tower:~# diagnostics cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/config/*.conf’: No such file or directory root@Tower:~# The file is still created, the error message can be ignored. I found it. Is there any way to safely power down with no GUI? Don't want to do another parity check if I don't have to.
July 20, 201510 yr I have 6.0.1 now running since a while and again: Thanks to LT and others that have developed unRAID and the great things around like VM's, Docker packages, Plugin's etc, etc... After having used all the beta 6 versions I would like to go back to a more stock unRaid. This is what I'm having in /boot/packages (main server): 176 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7956 Mar 5 12:34 etherwake-1.09-x86_64-5cf.txz* 465 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 303244 Sep 10 2014 expect-5.44.1.15-x86_64-2.txz* 467 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 522196 Mar 22 20:05 ipmitool-1.8.13-x86_64-1_fs.tgz* 178 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 541564 Mar 5 12:34 libnl-1.1.4-x86_64-1.txz* 463 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 276095 Sep 10 2014 libvirt-python-1.2.8-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz* 177 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4633620 Mar 5 12:34 nmap-6.40-x86_64-1.txz* 466 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 315492 Sep 10 2014 pysetuptools-3.6-x86_64-1ponce.txz* 464 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 2556684 Sep 10 2014 tcl-8.6.1-x86_64-1.txz* ...and here is the content of /boot/packages of my test&backup server: -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 303244 Sep 9 2014 expect-5.44.1.15-x86_64-2.txz* -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 276095 Sep 9 2014 libvirt-python-1.2.8-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz* -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1102988 Sep 9 2014 pip-1.5.6-x86_64-1_uqv.txz* -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7381 May 18 09:08 powerdown-2.16-noarch-unRAID.tgz* -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 315492 Sep 9 2014 pysetuptools-3.6-x86_64-1ponce.txz* -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 2556684 Sep 9 2014 tcl-8.6.1-x86_64-1.txz* Shouldn't all plugin files sit in /boot/config/plugins (e.g. ipmitool, etherwake...)? Or should some of these tools make it into NerdPack? Another example: I see the power down package in /boot/packages/powerdown-2.16-noarch-unRAID.tgz as well as in /boot/config/plugins/powerdown/powerdown-2015.05.17a.tgz. What could/should I delete in order to avoid errors moving forward? One more thing: fan 0 is showing 675000 RPM .... the IPMI Tool is showing a more realistic 3000 RPM. Syslog attached.
July 20, 201510 yr Hi all. Just upgraded to to v6 and all went well. The problem I am having is after being up for about an hour the GUI is unresponsive. I can telnet into the server or watch a movie just fine. It's doing a parity check now since I couldn't stop the server. Any info you might need just let me know. Thanks. From telnet or console, typediagnostics Get the diagnostics zip file from the logs folder on your flash drive and post it. This is what I get when I run it. Parity check still going, but no GUI. went almost 5 1/2 hours this time. Tower login: root Linux 4.0.4-unRAID. Last login: Sun Jul 19 15:15:17 -0400 2015 on /dev/pts/0 from Chrissys.home. root@Tower:~# diagnostics cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/config/*.conf’: No such file or directory root@Tower:~# The file is still created, the error message can be ignored. I found it. Is there any way to safely power down with no GUI? Don't want to do another parity check if I don't have to. Only if you install the Powerdown plugin. That allows you to issue a 'powerdown' command from the command line that will work even if the GUI is not responding. I am surprised that LimeTech have not incorporated all the functionality of the Powerdown plugin into the standard unRAID built-in powerdown facility.
July 20, 201510 yr I am surprised that LimeTech have not incorporated all the functionality of the Powerdown plugin into the standard unRAID built-in powerdown facility. THIS. Why not incorporate this? Seems like a worthy addition to me.
July 21, 201510 yr Hi all. Just upgraded to to v6 and all went well. The problem I am having is after being up for about an hour the GUI is unresponsive. I can telnet into the server or watch a movie just fine. It's doing a parity check now since I couldn't stop the server. Any info you might need just let me know. Thanks. From telnet or console, typediagnostics Get the diagnostics zip file from the logs folder on your flash drive and post it. This is what I get when I run it. Parity check still going, but no GUI. went almost 5 1/2 hours this time. Tower login: root Linux 4.0.4-unRAID. Last login: Sun Jul 19 15:15:17 -0400 2015 on /dev/pts/0 from Chrissys.home. root@Tower:~# diagnostics cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/config/*.conf’: No such file or directory root@Tower:~# The file is still created, the error message can be ignored. Here it is. tower-diagnostics-20150719-1516.zip
July 22, 201510 yr I am surprised that LimeTech have not incorporated all the functionality of the Powerdown plugin into the standard unRAID built-in powerdown facility. THIS. Why not incorporate this? Seems like a worthy addition to me. +1
July 22, 201510 yr I am surprised that LimeTech have not incorporated all the functionality of the Powerdown plugin into the standard unRAID built-in powerdown facility. THIS. Why not incorporate this? Seems like a worthy addition to me. +1 ++1
July 22, 201510 yr I am surprised that LimeTech have not incorporated all the functionality of the Powerdown plugin into the standard unRAID built-in powerdown facility. THIS. Why not incorporate this? Seems like a worthy addition to me. Been saying the same thing for the seven years I have been using Unraid. I cannot think of any reason why it wouldn't be incorporated, but since it hasn't thus far, there must be some reason. Almost every one new to Unraid will not know about things like "shutting the array down cleanly" etc... why such preventative measures aren't built-in is beyond me. Also @Limetech, whilst you're at it incorporating clean powerdown functionality, pretty please add 2 buttons or a drop-down on the dashboard of the Web UI: Powerdown | Reboot server. Simple. That would be great.
July 22, 201510 yr Also @Limetech, whilst you're at it incorporating clean powerdown functionality, pretty please add 2 buttons or a drop-down on the dashboard of the Web UI: Powerdown | Reboot server. Simple. That would be great. What's wrong with the two buttons that are there already?
July 22, 201510 yr Also @Limetech, whilst you're at it incorporating clean powerdown functionality, pretty please add 2 buttons or a drop-down on the dashboard of the Web UI: Powerdown | Reboot server. Simple. That would be great. What's wrong with the two buttons that are there already? Already there? I'm lost, I don't see any such options on my Unraid 6.0.1 setup. Maybe there has been a recent update and I haven't seen it yet...
July 22, 201510 yr Also @Limetech, whilst you're at it incorporating clean powerdown functionality, pretty please add 2 buttons or a drop-down on the dashboard of the Web UI: Powerdown | Reboot server. Simple. That would be great. What's wrong with the two buttons that are there already? Already there? I'm lost, I don't see any such options on my Unraid 6.0.1 setup. Maybe there has been a recent update and I haven't seen it yet... You need to stop the array before the two options appear
July 22, 201510 yr Well yes, these options have been there since the dawn of time. The original necessity for the powerdown package was it didn't just take care of stopping the array, it closed file handles cleanly, it created a log file etc... All things that I would expect Unraid itself to do. Also, nitpicking, but I want one button. You think I can say to my good lady friend, "um well first you need to click stop array, then make sure the check box is checked..., then you need to click..." (or whatever). Ah forget it, sorry does not work. Why not one button "Shut down server" that does it all?? Why would people argue against this? Also what about the case whereby I can't reach the web UI (which can be quite often). I need to hit the power button on the server itself? - would that cleanly shut down the server were it not for the fact that I have the powerdown script installed? Just saying, I thought with Unraid 6 Limetech were taking steps to make the Web UI a bit more user friendly... Rant over. Although maybe I am in the minority, I only ever start up my Unraid server to a). listen to music b). watch a film c). do a backup. All other times it is shutdown not using any electricity.
July 22, 201510 yr Also @Limetech, whilst you're at it incorporating clean powerdown functionality, pretty please add 2 buttons or a drop-down on the dashboard of the Web UI: Powerdown | Reboot server. Simple. That would be great. What's wrong with the two buttons that are there already? Already there? I'm lost, I don't see any such options on my Unraid 6.0.1 setup. Maybe there has been a recent update and I haven't seen it yet... It's always been there. Bottom of the Main page. Stop the array, there's two buttons appear. Reboot and Shutdown.
July 22, 201510 yr Although maybe I am in the minority, I only ever start up my Unraid server to a). listen to music b). watch a film c). do a backup. All other times it is shutdown not using any electricity. Turning a server on and off is pretty much contrary to the idea and function of a server. UnRAID, on the correct hardware, can use as little as 18W idle. That's 0.48kWh per day. Even at my extortionate electric prices, that's 9p per day. Is the inconvenience of turning your server on and off really worth 9p?
July 22, 201510 yr Although maybe I am in the minority, I only ever start up my Unraid server to a). listen to music b). watch a film c). do a backup. All other times it is shutdown not using any electricity. Turning a server on and off is pretty much contrary to the idea and function of a server. UnRAID, on the correct hardware, can use as little as 18W idle. That's 0.48kWh per day. Even at my extortionate electric prices, that's 9p per day. Is the inconvenience of turning your server on and off really worth 9p? Hmm, so I should change my entire way/methodology of using the server simply because there is no powerdown button on the Web UI? I jest of course, but let me just take a couple of minutes to pick apart your statement. Ok, so your server runs on 18w. Mine most certainly does not even though I will admit it is frugal (HP Microserver Gen 8 ) I live in Germany, electricity prices are completely different. Then there is the wear on hard drives, memory and other parts. Noise and heat from the server (again, I will admit it is pretty quiet, but not silent)... but the heat is noticeable, especially now during the heatwave here in Bavaria. But hey lets just say I can put up with those things and it still costs only €40/year to run, I will always have this nagging little feeling... 98% of the time, I don't need this thing running... Again, I am not trying to start an argument. I would genuinely be interested in how other people use their servers, maybe others don't care about the points I've listed above... But I'm living in a country where everyone turns the shower off/on rather than running it constantly when showering.
July 22, 201510 yr Haven't you seen the buttons at the top ? Those I have not seen. Nice. Is that in 6.0.1? Or a new feature in 6.1? Is that executing a clean powerdown? thanks.
July 22, 201510 yr All those, who point at the (working) existing buttons do expect that a unRaid skilled person is always around. That might not be always the case. When I'm out for a whole week it can well be that my wife has to shutdown the array because of various reasons (e.g. electrician need to switch off the electricity in the whole building...). For that simple reason it would be great to have a simplified "POWER DOWN" button for the webGUI or even better providing a clean shutdown process by hitting the HW power button. Make sense?
July 22, 201510 yr All those, who point at the (working) existing buttons do expect that a unRaid skilled person is always around. That might not be always the case. When I'm out for a whole week it can well be that my wife has to shutdown the array because of various reasons (e.g. electrician need to switch off the electricity in the whole building...). For that simple reason it would be great to have a simplified "POWER DOWN" button for the webGUI or even better providing a clean shutdown process by hitting the HW power button. Make sense? My point exactly... but probably made much better
July 22, 201510 yr When I'm out for a whole week it can well be that my wife has to shutdown the array because of various reasons (e.g. electrician need to switch off the electricity in the whole building...). For that simple reason it would be great to have a simplified "POWER DOWN" button for the webGUI or even better providing a clean shutdown process by hitting the HW power button. Make sense? Your unskilled person must be pretty stupid if they can't follow a 6 step procedure. 1. Shortcut to web interface 2. Click the Main tab 3. Click the check mark beside the "Stop" button 4. Click the Stop button 5. Click the check mark beside the "Shutdown" button 6. Click the Shutdown button. It's idiotic to suggest that's difficult. Having a big "Turn off instantly" button is more dangerous by far in my opinion when dealing with people who can't follow a 6 step procedure. I do agree that having the option of powering down cleanly using the power button may be a nice option to have - certainly better than the power button leading to a dirty shutdown.
July 22, 201510 yr So you find having 2 clearly labelled buttons and a process that requires you to check a box click offline then check a box and click a button that says power off too hard. My answer to you is to get a UPS connect it up then just turn off the power to the UPS which will in turn shutdown unraid with one button which is simpler because you don't need to use a pc open a web browser navigate to the web gui then find and click a shutdown button. sorry but sometimes people requesting to have simple things made simpler for the sake of it just does my head in.
July 22, 201510 yr When I'm out for a whole week it can well be that my wife has to shutdown the array because of various reasons (e.g. electrician need to switch off the electricity in the whole building...). For that simple reason it would be great to have a simplified "POWER DOWN" button for the webGUI or even better providing a clean shutdown process by hitting the HW power button. Make sense? Your unskilled person must be pretty stupid if they can't follow a 6 step procedure. 1. Shortcut to web interface 2. Click the Main tab 3. Click the check mark beside the "Stop" button 4. Click the Stop button 5. Click the check mark beside the "Shutdown" button 6. Click the Shutdown button. It's idiotic to suggest that's difficult. Having a big "Turn off instantly" button is more dangerous by far in my opinion when dealing with people who can't follow a 6 step procedure. I do agree that having the option of powering down cleanly using the power button may be a nice option to have - certainly better than the power button leading to a dirty shutdown. @mejutty / @HellDiverUK You just made the for "a nice big powerdown button" camps point by listing those steps. The people that you call "stupid", they are not stupid. They are simply not interested in all this server shit, arrays, parity etc... You are looking at totally the wrong audience. And before you go on about Unraid not being marketed at these people, I agree completely. But when we are talking about a stupid button on the Web UI running a piece of code that is already written, well as a software developer myself, I don't think the implementation and testing effort is very high at all. Basically I don't know why people bother arguing against the button. just add the damn thing is my point.
July 22, 201510 yr @mejutty & HellDiverUK, this is pretty arrogant. You might want to test and explain it to a person who is looking at that max. every 2nd month....calling these people "stupid" is not how we should communicate here
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