Server notifies me in the bottom left it is "Array Started•Starting services..." been like this for over 12 hours.

[PeteAsking]

I dont notice anything wrong, all is working but is it normal for unraid to tell me its starting services forever? Can I see what has got stuck somehow?

[itimpi]

5 minutes ago, PeteAsking said:

I dont notice anything wrong, all is working but is it normal for unraid to tell me its starting services forever? Can I see what has got stuck somehow?

It is not normal  

 

you could try navigating to a different page in the webGUI in case it is just a refresh issue.

[PeteAsking]

Yeah it says it on all the pages


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[PeteAsking]

I mean nothing is not working which has to be a good thing.


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[wgstarks]

I’m seeing exactly the same thing.

[Frank1940]

Try to capture the diagnostics and attach them to a new post.

[wgstarks]

31 minutes ago, Frank1940 said:

Try to capture the diagnostics and attach them to a new post.

Here's mine. Pretty sure the started with the 6.11.5 install but I could be wrong. First noticed it 3 or 4 days later.

 

brunnhilde-diagnostics-20221206-0939.zip

[ChatNoir]

1 hour ago, wgstarks said:

I’m seeing exactly the same thing.

What browser are you using ?

[wgstarks]

18 minutes ago, ChatNoir said:

What browser are you using ?

I’m using Safari. IIRC this has been an issue in the past.

 

Looks like an array stop/start has fixed the problem for my server.

[wgstarks]

2 hours ago, wgstarks said:

I’m using Safari. IIRC this has been an issue in the past.

 

Looks like an array stop/start has fixed the problem for my server.

Actually I was wrong. There is still a status there it’s just changed to my swap file setting. This also appears in Firefox.

[PeteAsking]

Interesting, I am also on 6.11.5 so I guess it started when i moved to 6.11.5.

 

Maybe its a 6.11.5 bug?

 

I have attached my diagnostics as requested but probably everything is fine as I experience no problems or issues whatsoever. Everything works great to be fair.

tower-diagnostics-20221207-0952.zip

[wgstarks]

I rebooted my server and not seeing that message anymore.

[PeteAsking]

I cant easily reboot

[PeteAsking]

Just checked again and the message has gone away on its own, very strange. I did change the setting on my disks array to auto start (it was off) and change 3 vm's to auto start and some dockers to auto start. I had them all off and the array off for auto starting as I had turned it off before updating to the latest unraid version. Perhaps this has something to do with it.

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by PeteAsking

[eqjunkie829]

Mine was showing this after upgrading to 6.11.5. I changed the array autostart to yes and it went away. I dont usually leave my array on autostart but I guess I will for now. 

[weirdcrap]

Just encountered this as well after changing a share's minimum free space. Everything seems to be working, last log message was about winbind but i'm not sure they're related.

 

Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  wsdd2[11454]: 'Terminated' signal received.
Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  winbindd[11458]: [2022/12/25 18:40:35.498412,  0] ../../source3/winbindd/winbindd_dual.c:1957(winbindd_sig_term_handler)
Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  winbindd[11458]:   Got sig[15] terminate (is_parent=1)
Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  wsdd2[11454]: terminating.
Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  winbindd[11460]: [2022/12/25 18:40:35.498462,  0] ../../source3/winbindd/winbindd_dual.c:1957(winbindd_sig_term_handler)
Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  winbindd[11460]:   Got sig[15] terminate (is_parent=0)
Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  winbindd[12972]: [2022/12/25 18:40:35.498567,  0] ../../source3/winbindd/winbindd_dual.c:1957(winbindd_sig_term_handler)
Dec 25 18:40:35 Node  winbindd[12972]:   Got sig[15] terminate (is_parent=0)
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node root: Starting Samba:  /usr/sbin/smbd -D
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  smbd[15089]: [2022/12/25 18:40:37.670343,  0] ../../source3/smbd/server.c:1741(main)
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  smbd[15089]:   smbd version 4.17.3 started.
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  smbd[15089]:   Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2022
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node root:                  /usr/sbin/wsdd2 -d 
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  wsdd2[15103]: starting.
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node root:                  /usr/sbin/winbindd -D
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  winbindd[15104]: [2022/12/25 18:40:37.722342,  0] ../../source3/winbindd/winbindd.c:1440(main)
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  winbindd[15104]:   winbindd version 4.17.3 started.
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  winbindd[15104]:   Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2022
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  winbindd[15106]: [2022/12/25 18:40:37.724476,  0] ../../source3/winbindd/winbindd_cache.c:3116(initialize_winbindd_cache)
Dec 25 18:40:37 Node  winbindd[15106]:   initialize_winbindd_cache: clearing cache and re-creating with version number 2
Dec 25 18:41:52 Node  sshd[16971]: Connection from 10.250.0.3 port 57350 on 192.168.20.249 port 22 rdomain ""

 

 

 

node-diagnostics-20221225-1845.zip

 

 

EDIT: and just like that after about 10 minutes its gone. No entries in the logs or anything.... very strange.

Edited December 26, 2022 by weirdcrap

[DontWorryScro]

I too am seeing this right now.  Did update to 6.11.5 last week or so and did change minimum space requirements on a share but I can't be sure if this has been there all along or if I just happened to only notice it this morning.

 

[wgstarks]

1 minute ago, DontWorryScro said:

I too am seeing this right now.  Did update to 6.11.5 last week or so and did change minimum space requirements on a share but I can't be sure if this has been there all along or if I just happened to only notice it this morning.

 

Have you tried an array stop and then start? That cleared it for me. Reboot would probably also work.

[miicar]

On 1/17/2023 at 11:20 AM, wgstarks said:

Have you tried an array stop and then start? That cleared it for me. Reboot would probably also work.

Just chiming in to report this issue as well!  Rebooting temporarily resolves the issue.   But it randomly returns, and my users are reporting flaky file access (crashes, slow to load etc).  This only seems to have become an issue since "upgrading" to v.6.11.5. 

 

I am also getting a random error "kernel: traps: lsof[*****] general protection fault ip:************* error:0 in libc-2.36.so[**********]" in my logs as well.  This is quite frustrating over the last few weeks, as random things i do "resolve" the issue, so i have no idea what the actual cause/solution is!  

(BTW, i just noticed that we all seem to be running Supermicro boards (mine is x10)...i wonder if that is related?)

 

EDIT #2:
Yet another observation:  I had the "Starting Services" message on the bottom, then i hit mover (to move some local machine image backups from the cache to the array), and it seems like the "starting services" message is gone!  AHHHHHHHHHH!!! The randomness continues!

 

Edited February 7, 2023 by miicar
possible epiphany

[weirdcrap]

6 hours ago, miicar said:

I am also getting a random error "kernel: traps: lsof[*****] general protection fault ip:************* error:0 in libc-2.36.so[**********]" in my logs as well.  This is quite frustrating over the last few weeks, as random things i do "resolve" the issue, so i have no idea what the actual cause/solution is!  

 

I've gotten this on and off for years across various versions. It doesn't seem to affect anything for me that I can tell.

[aglyons]

I just noticed this myself, also, I posted another thread about Smart testing running 24/7 and showing 100% all the time. Survives reboots and is affecting all drives including cache and parity. I wonder if this is any way related?

 

Logs are posted there too.

 

 

[aglyons]

So interesting how others have said this is sporadic and they can't figure out what is going on. Once I've *kind of* figured out my SMART scanning issue, that message went away.

 

I am wondering if smartctl is doing a long scan of drives (which can take upwards of 12 hours) is the cause of the services message?

[itimpi]

4 minutes ago, aglyons said:

I am wondering if smartctl is doing a long scan of drives (which can take upwards of 12 hours) is the cause of the services message?

Unraid never does this on its own.    If you want the Extended SMART test to be run then you have to initiate it manually from a disks settings page.

[xorinzor]

I can reproduce this whenever I change the "Use cache pool" setting of shares.

If I change the "Export" field for example it resolves itself.

 

edit: I am on 6.11.5

Edited March 20, 2023 by xorinzor

[THF13]

On 3/19/2023 at 6:45 PM, xorinzor said:

I can reproduce this whenever I change the "Use cache pool" setting of shares.

If I change the "Export" field for example it resolves itself.

 

edit: I am on 6.11.5

Exact same scenario here.  6.11.5, "STARTING SERVICES" message came on persistently after modifying a share's "Use cache pool" setting, message went away when I changed the share's "Export" option.