[Support] binhex - UrBackup

[Kilrah]

Your shares could be misconfigured (e.g. min free space). You probably also want your backup share to be array only, no cache use.

[K1LLA_KING_KING]

I've been backing up with URbackup for some time, only today did I think I should test if I can restore.

Turns out I cannot. Using the lastest version of UrBackup Restore CD 2.4.2 (x64) (USB) it obviosly cannot support my network drivers. I have both LAN and WIFI.
Intel(R) Ethernet Controller I226-V
Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6E AX211 160MHz

I manually added the wifi credantials, but this network will not appear in the task tray.

I also tried to find the backup via windows > restore system image > network and that also fails after entering network credentials. I think its the same problem. Network drivers.

Any idea how to solve this? Perhaps there is a way to add drivers to the USB?

Edited January 8 by K1LLA_KING_KING

[Etelari]

Hello,

 

I am new to urbackup and I have installed it via this container and things are working fine.  I noticed that during the docker install, it also makes a bunch of shares on my unraid setup which I don't really want.  Can these be removed.

 

\192.168.1.101 - This share is my client using the backup

\clients - Not sure what this is.

\urBackup

\urbackup

\urbackup_tmp_files

 

Thanks for the help

 

Edited January 26 by Etelari

[Kilrah]

That would mean you didn't point it to a dedicated share but probably to /mnt/user directly and want to fix that.

[Elmojo]

Has anyone experienced very sloooow image backups?  I'm backing up my VMs, and the images are only about 50-60GB in size.  The transfers over my local network are running at about 15-20Mbps, which means they take 5-7 hours to run.

I'm using the uncompressed (VHD) image type, so that I can (hopefully) mount an image in Windows or VMWare in the case of a VM corruption.  Is this a bad idea?  I'm brand new to this software, so I'm likely doing things bass-akwards.  Suggestions appreciated!

 

I also notice that one of my VMs seems to be running the backups pretty much continuously, even though I have it on the default 7-day schedule.  Is that a known issue?

[betaman]

6 minutes ago, Elmojo said:

Has anyone experienced very sloooow image backups?  I'm backing up my VMs, and the images are only about 50-60GB in size.  The transfers over my local network are running at about 15-20Mbps, which means they take 5-7 hours to run.

I'm using the uncompressed (VHD) image type, so that I can (hopefully) mount an image in Windows or VMWare in the case of a VM corruption.  Is this a bad idea?  I'm brand new to this software, so I'm likely doing things bass-akwards.  Suggestions appreciated!

 

I also notice that one of my VMs seems to be running the backups pretty much continuously, even though I have it on the default 7-day schedule.  Is that a known issue?

Nice to see you here! I just did my first backup and it took about 10 min or less for a 35GB image.  Based on JonathanM's response in the other thread, I'm wondering what else besides the image backup I should be worried about (e.g. xml):?

[Elmojo]

12 minutes ago, betaman said:

I just did my first backup and it took about 10 min or less for a 35GB image

Yeah...something is amiss... lol

With my setup, I mean.

Edited February 19 by Elmojo

[betaman]

11 minutes ago, Elmojo said:

Yeah...something is amiss... lol

With my setup, I mean.

Have you tried to restore a backup yet? If so, what exactly is the process? I don't want to end up like @K1LLA_KING_KING

Edited February 19 by betaman

[betaman]

24 minutes ago, Elmojo said:

Yeah...something is amiss... lol

With my setup, I mean.

Also, here's what my first backup looks like:

 

 

Does this seem correct for a vm installation of Windows 10?

[Kilrah]

Yes.

[Elmojo]

1 hour ago, betaman said:

Have you tried to restore a backup yet?

No, I just installed it today.  I have no idea what the restore process is.  I'm actually more concerned with getting the actual backups to work properly before I worry about restoring them. lol

[betaman]

53 minutes ago, Elmojo said:

No, I just installed it today.  I have no idea what the restore process is.  I'm actually more concerned with getting the actual backups to work properly before I worry about restoring them. lol

Well, it appears to me that with an image backup, you get a mountable ISO file. My question is in the case of a corrupt vdisk image file, what's the process for restoring the backup? It feels like I have to recreate the vm (from saved xml file) but then how do I get the contents of the image into the new vdisk file? Mount the image with unassigned devices and copy the contents over manually or boot from the ISO and then what?

 

EDIT: Also I'm noticing that the disk in my array where I have the backup folder is not spinning down even though I only have image backup enabled on a 7 day cycle?

Edited February 20 by betaman

[Elmojo]

54 minutes ago, betaman said:

it appears to me that with an image backup, you get a mountable ISO file

Not exactly. You get a virtual hard drive image.  It's an exact replica of the drive, in file form.  You can mount that image back into a VM (which is how it was before the crash), or you can mount it in another software (as a drive letter in Windows, for example), if you only want to extract data from the image, and not actually boot it again.

[betaman]

32 minutes ago, Elmojo said:

Not exactly. You get a virtual hard drive image.  It's an exact replica of the drive, in file form.  You can mount that image back into a VM (which is how it was before the crash), or you can mount it in another software (as a drive letter in Windows, for example), if you only want to extract data from the image, and not actually boot it again.

Sorry for the n00b vm question but I’m a bit confused on how the iso backup and vdisk file interact if I boot my vm from the iso backup? I assume if I boot from the backup then at some point I’ll switch back to booting from the vdisk file but what else do I have to do before switching back?

[Elmojo]

2 hours ago, betaman said:

I’m a bit confused on how the iso backup and vdisk file interact

There is no ISO backup.  An ISO is a disc image, like of a CD or DVD.

This software makes images of hard drives, containing operating systems (it also does file backups, but we're discussing full disk imaging), that can later be mounted as virtual machines.

In the context of unraid, we will most likely be essentially backing up a VMD (Virtual Machine Disk) to a VMD, rather than backing up a physical disk to a VMD, like you'd be doing if you were running this software on a regular computer.

[Kilrah]

When you do an image backup either you mount that image to access stuff on it, of it you want to do a restore you boot from the urbackup boot CD, connect to your server, and select the image to restore.

 

I typically only do file backups personally, 4 times a day so if i break something i was working on i can grab it back. If something breaks I take the "opportunity" to do a clean install and only bring back the files I need. But that's for my everyday machines.

[betaman]

5 hours ago, Kilrah said:

When you do an image backup either you mount that image to access stuff on it, of it you want to do a restore you boot from the urbackup boot CD, connect to your server, and select the image to restore.

 

I typically only do file backups personally, 4 times a day so if i break something i was working on i can grab it back. If something breaks I take the "opportunity" to do a clean install and only bring back the files I need. But that's for my everyday machines.

Ah ok, this makes sense. But is the URBackup boot CD an ISO I need to download somewhere?

[betaman]

9 hours ago, Elmojo said:

There is no ISO backup.  An ISO is a disc image, like of a CD or DVD.

This software makes images of hard drives, containing operating systems (it also does file backups, but we're discussing full disk imaging), that can later be mounted as virtual machines.

In the context of unraid, we will most likely be essentially backing up a VMD (Virtual Machine Disk) to a VMD, rather than backing up a physical disk to a VMD, like you'd be doing if you were running this software on a regular computer.

Yeah, sorry. Bad terminology on my part.

[betaman]

14 hours ago, Elmojo said:

No, I just installed it today.  I have no idea what the restore process is.  I'm actually more concerned with getting the actual backups to work properly before I worry about restoring them. lol

FYI, I'm getting on average about 400 MBit/sec on the backup rate

[Elmojo]

42 minutes ago, betaman said:

FYI, I'm getting on average about 400 MBit/sec on the backup rate

That sounds about right.  I'm not sure why mine is running so slow.  The rest of my network is plenty fast.  In fact, the very first backup I ran seemed to be pretty quick.  I wonder if it's because I'm using the "uncompressed" file format?  I wouldn't think so, but anything is possible.  Hopefully, @binhex (does tagging not work here?) or someone who knows more about how this docker works under the hood can chime in and offer some suggestions.

[betaman]

1 hour ago, Elmojo said:

That sounds about right.  I'm not sure why mine is running so slow.  The rest of my network is plenty fast.  In fact, the very first backup I ran seemed to be pretty quick.  I wonder if it's because I'm using the "uncompressed" file format?  I wouldn't think so, but anything is possible.  Hopefully, @binhex (does tagging not work here?) or someone who knows more about how this docker works under the hood can chime in and offer some suggestions.

FYI, I’m using the compression. Maybe try it with to see?

 

[Kilrah]

4 hours ago, betaman said:

But is the URBackup boot CD an ISO I need to download somewhere?

From the official website... https://www.urbackup.org/download.html

 

When I do image backups I use compression and it runs at network speed, pretty sure it'd do the same uncompressed. I have my share set as array only and usually nothing else would be using the array at the same time. 

[betaman]

4 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

From the official website... https://www.urbackup.org/download.html

 

When I do image backups I use compression and it runs at network speed, pretty sure it'd do the same uncompressed. I have my share set as array only and usually nothing else would be using the array at the same time. 

Thanks for the link. Makes sense now.

 

Is there some reason URBackup would be keeping my disk spun up in the array? It doesn’t seem to spin down unless I manually do it?

[Kilrah]

No spindown issues here.

[Elmojo]

8 minutes ago, betaman said:

I’m using the compression. Maybe try it with to see?

I could, but even if that works, I don't think the resultant file would be of any use to me, since my goal is to be able to mount the VHD backup in VMWare or some other virtualization environment as an option.  In most cases, I would probably just restore the image back to the original VM, but I'd like the option to be able to mount the image in Windows or whatever, if I need to just pull a few keys files.