Thanks again. I have access by using the IP address of the windows machine NOT the name that comes up when I search for servers in Unraid. Nothing to do with credentials after all.. which were correct. The issue lies with app it seems.

Thanks again for your help.

 

 

On 12/28/2024 at 1:49 AM, saber1 said:

@dlandon

The "root share" Feature within UD only works if Disk Share is disabled.

But I want access to a single disk as well.

So, is it possible to integrate it in UD?

No.

12 hours ago, dlandon said:

No.

Simply “No”?
Can you give a little more context?
As I already wrote, it seems that “Disk Shares” must be deactivated in order to use “Root Share” from UD.
Why is that the case?
So if I want to use “Root Share” and “Disk Share” (which would be possible with “/mnt”), I have to go the way of Spaceinvaderone.
However, the following is written about this method in this thread:

On 5/28/2024 at 7:37 PM, dlandon said:

If you are using UD to mount a rootshare, it will manage everything for you and you don't need any SMB Extra setings.  In fact you'll probably break SMB.

12 hours ago, saber1 said:

Simply “No”?
Can you give a little more context?
As I already wrote, it seems that “Disk Shares” must be deactivated in order to use “Root Share” from UD.
Why is that the case?
So if I want to use “Root Share” and “Disk Share” (which would be possible with “/mnt”), I have to go the way of Spaceinvaderone.
However, the following is written about this method in this thread:

The /mnt share method just shares /mnt but does not include any share features like the recycle bin.  It will also include all shares, even UD shares.

 

The UD root share is a bind mount so share features like the recycle bin will work.  I attempted to include the disk shares when I first set up the root share, and the bind mount crashed shfs.

 

What is your use case in needing a root share including everyrhing?

32 minutes ago, dlandon said:

What is your use case in needing a root share including everyrhing?

My use case is as follows:

I have three servers running.

On the main server, I want the root shares of the other two servers to be accessible, so that I can have full control over the other two via the main server without constantly switching back and forth.

1 minute ago, saber1 said:

My use case is as follows:

I have three servers running.

On the main server, I want the root shares of the other two servers to be accessible, so that I can have full control over the other two via the main server without constantly switching back and forth.

And the current UD root share doesn't do that?

17 minutes ago, dlandon said:

And the current UD root share doesn't do that?

For all the shares, yes. Runs very well.

Not for single disks.

I successfully precleared an unassigned disk attached via USB but after that I don't see an option to mount it. Used the unassigned devices plugin.. what am I doing wrong here?

I wanted to mount this outside the array and copy data from an array disk into it so that I can change the file system on the array disk and copy the data back into it.

2 hours ago, kolla said:

I successfully precleared an unassigned disk attached via USB but after that I don't see an option to mount it. Used the unassigned devices plugin.. what am I doing wrong here?

I wanted to mount this outside the array and copy data from an array disk into it so that I can change the file system on the array disk and copy the data back into it.

precleared devices don't have a filesystem. You have to format it to a chosen filesystem first and then you can mount it.

 

For some reason I am having issues getting an external SMB share to mount. I can access it from other computers on my LAN so I know the share is working but when I configure it in UD the mount fails with this error.

 

Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Mounting Remote Share '//WALTERS-M4-MINI/brunnhilde'...
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Mount SMB share '//WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME/brunnhilde' using SMB default protocol.
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Mount SMB command: /sbin/mount -t 'cifs' -o rw,hard,relatime,noserverino,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,uid=99,gid=100,,actimeo=10,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,closetimeo=30,credentials='/tmp/unassigned.devices/credentials_WALTERS-M4-MINI_brunnhilde' '//WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME/brunnhilde' '/mnt/remotes/WALTERS-M4-MINI_brunnhilde'
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: enabling forceuid mount option implicitly because uid= option is specified
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: enabling forcegid mount option implicitly because gid= option is specified
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount \\WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME\brunnhilde
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: Status code returned 0xc000006d STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: VFS: \\WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME Send error in SessSetup = -13
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Remote Share '//WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME/brunnhilde' failed to mount.

 

I can select the SMB server-

 

 

Not sure why UD is listing it four times though.

I have left the domain entry blank since it's already a part of the server selected (actually I've tried it multiple times with and without a domain entry). Credentials are entered correctly using copy/paste to avoid typos. On the final setup screen no shared folders are listed. If I manually enter one I get a success screen but can't mount the share.

 

I have also tried just entering the IP as 10.0.1.80 rather than selecting a server. Same result.

21 minutes ago, wgstarks said:

For some reason I am having issues getting an external SMB share to mount. I can access it from other computers on my LAN so I know the share is working but when I configure it in UD the mount fails with this error.

 

Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Mounting Remote Share '//WALTERS-M4-MINI/brunnhilde'...
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Mount SMB share '//WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME/brunnhilde' using SMB default protocol.
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Mount SMB command: /sbin/mount -t 'cifs' -o rw,hard,relatime,noserverino,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,uid=99,gid=100,,actimeo=10,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,closetimeo=30,credentials='/tmp/unassigned.devices/credentials_WALTERS-M4-MINI_brunnhilde' '//WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME/brunnhilde' '/mnt/remotes/WALTERS-M4-MINI_brunnhilde'
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: enabling forceuid mount option implicitly because uid= option is specified
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: enabling forcegid mount option implicitly because gid= option is specified
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount \\WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME\brunnhilde
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: Status code returned 0xc000006d STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: VFS: \\WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME Send error in SessSetup = -13
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde kernel: CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
Jan  8 09:43:58 Brunnhilde unassigned.devices: Remote Share '//WALTERS-M4-MINI.DAHONEY.ME/brunnhilde' failed to mount.

 

I can select the SMB server-

 

 

Not sure why UD is listing it four times though.

I have left the domain entry blank since it's already a part of the server selected (actually I've tried it multiple times with and without a domain entry). Credentials are entered correctly using copy/paste to avoid typos. On the final setup screen no shared folders are listed. If I manually enter one I get a success screen but can't mount the share.

 

I have also tried just entering the IP as 10.0.1.80 rather than selecting a server. Same result.

 

Sorry, forgot diagnostics.

 

brunnhilde-diagnostics-20250108-1014.zip

47 minutes ago, wgstarks said:

I have left the domain entry blank since it's already a part of the server selected (actually I've tried it multiple times with and without a domain entry). Credentials are entered correctly using copy/paste to avoid typos. On the final setup screen no shared folders are listed. If I manually enter one I get a success screen but can't mount the share.

It's a credentials issue.  That's why they won't list in the shares.  Be sure you are using the latest version of UD that can handle special characters in the password.  If you are using any special characters, let me know what they are and I can verify that UD handles them properly.

 

Not sure why it shows multiple times in the drop down.  It's not supposed to do that.

30 minutes ago, dlandon said:

Be sure you are using the latest version

2024.12.27

 

30 minutes ago, dlandon said:

If you are using any special characters, let me know what they are and I can verify that UD handles them properly.

# & 

 

32 minutes ago, dlandon said:

Not sure why it shows multiple times in the drop down.  It's not supposed to do that.

It doesn't always. Maybe 25% of my attempts.

54 minutes ago, wgstarks said:

# & 

I don't see any issues here.  The only suggestion I have is to double check the password.  If you can give me a test password that doesn't work, I can check it.

52 minutes ago, dlandon said:

I don't see any issues here.  The only suggestion I have is to double check the password.  If you can give me a test password that doesn't work, I can check it.

I setup a new user on the Mac with a password without any special characters-

user name = brunnhilde

password = wTbDxWdmdb6akdLPv7Yx

This also failed.

4 minutes ago, wgstarks said:

I setup a new user on the Mac with a password without any special characters-

user name = brunnhilde

password = wTbDxWdmdb6akdLPv7Yx

This also failed.

I do see that there is an issue now with CIFS accepting special characters.  UD is handling thme just fine.  I am looking at a resolution because the way I pass the credentials to the CIFS mount seems to trip up CIFS on special characters.

 

If using legacy SMB protocols (e.g., SMBv1), the password length may be limited to 14 characters due to legacy LM/NTLM hash limitations.

29 minutes ago, dlandon said:

using legacy SMB protocols (e.g., SMBv1), the password length may be limited to 14 characters due to legacy LM/NTLM hash limitations.

macOS 15 prioritizes SMBv3 and will revert to v2 or v1 if necessary. I’ll shorten the password just to test but don’t really think that’s the issue.

23 minutes ago, wgstarks said:

macOS 15 prioritizes SMBv3 and will revert to v2 or v1 if necessary. I’ll shorten the password just to test but don’t really think that’s the issue.

I was testing here on an Unraid server with a user with special characrters, and it was failing.  I remember now that Unraid has some special character limits.

11 hours ago, foo_fighter said:

precleared devices don't have a filesystem. You have to format it to a chosen filesystem first and then you can mount it.

 

Thanks. Do I have to click the X mark and "Clear Disk" before I get the "mount" button? (Currently greyed out) (See screenshot)

I plan to add this disk to the array later to replace a smaller drive and that's why I thought of preclearing it. But now it appears "clear disk" will remove the pre-clear signature and unraid will "go through the lengthy perocess of clearing it again"when I add this to arary later. All I want to do now is to copy data from the smaller drive in the array into this so that I can change the file system of that drive from RSF to xfs and copy data back. After that I want to replace that smaller drive in the array with this one. My understanding is copy data this way is the only way to change FS since I don't have any space left in the array and no extra drive bays. Any suggestions?

Edited January 8, 20251 yr by kolla

16 minutes ago, dlandon said:

I was testing here on an Unraid server with a user with special characrters, and it was failing.  I remember now that Unraid has some special character limits.

Shortened the alpha numeric password to 8 characters and was able to mount the share. Not sure but might be reverting to SMBv1 to connect.

28 minutes ago, kolla said:

Thanks. Do I have to click the X mark and "Clear Disk" before I get the "mount" button? (Currently greyed out) (See screenshot)

I plan to add this disk to the array later to replace a smaller drive and that's why I thought of preclearing it. But now it appears "clear disk" will remove the pre-clear signature and unraid will "go through the lengthy perocess of clearing it again"when I add this to arary later. All I want to do now is to copy data from the smaller drive in the array into this so that I can change the file system of that drive from RSF to xfs and copy data back. After that I want to replace that smaller drive in the array with this one. My understanding is copy data this way is the only way to change FS since I don't have any space left in the array and no extra drive bays. Any suggestions?

If I'm understanding what you intend you'll want to add that drive to the array without any changes. After adding you'll format the drive with your preferred file system and then transfer data from the smaller drive. If you format the drive before adding it to the array the cleared signature will be erased.

Here is a rather lengthy discussion on the topic. It's dated but I think still valid.

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/35815-re-format-xfs-on-replacement-drive-convert-from-rfs-to-xfs-discussion-only/

 

3 hours ago, wgstarks said:

If I'm understanding what you intend you'll want to add that drive to the array without any changes. After adding you'll format the drive with your preferred file system and then transfer data from the smaller drive. If you format the drive before adding it to the array the cleared signature will be erased.

Here is a rather lengthy discussion on the topic. It's dated but I think still valid.

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/35815-re-format-xfs-on-replacement-drive-convert-from-rfs-to-xfs-discussion-only/

 

Thanks. I did just that and started the data copy from the smaller drive to the other. I'm using the Unbalanced plugin and it's showing about 1 day to "copy" 4T of data! I'll wait and see ..

11 minutes ago, kolla said:

Thanks. I did just that and started the data copy from the smaller drive to the other. I'm using the Unbalanced plugin and it's showing about 1 day to "copy" 4T of data! I'll wait and see ..

IIRC Unbalance doesn’t copy. It moves.

Edited January 8, 20251 yr by wgstarks

46 minutes ago, wgstarks said:

IIRC Unbalance doesn’t copy. It moves.

Apparently, it does both. I picked the "Copy" option, and I see it's doing just that.

6 minutes ago, kolla said:

Apparently, it does both. I picked the "Copy" option, and I see it's doing just that.

I haven’t used it in years so it probably does a lot of things I don’t know about. 😁