jumperalex Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 http://www.cnet.com/news/seagate-unveils-massive-10tb-hard-drives-to-meet-all-storage-needs/ Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Not Interested; It's not SSD. Quote Link to comment
interwebtech Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Pricing, as expected, is just plain silly. Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Helium Filled. 7200 rpm. PMR 7 Platters, ~ 1.43 TB per platter for data density 3 year warranty on most models, 5 year warranty on the Baracuda model. Quote Link to comment
garycase Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Pricing, as expected, is just plain silly. A bit high, but not really out lf line for a state-of-the-art unit. $470 on Newegg = $47/TB. A 4TB Red is $150 = $37.50/TB, so it's only $10/TB higher. A premium price? Yes, but hasn't been all that long since 4TB Reds were in the $200 range, so it's consistent with those. I recently bought a few 8TB Reds for $340 ea -- $42.50/TB. Of course these are helium sealed units, so they're more equivalent to the $610 Enterprise 10TB units from Seagate => which, at $61/TB, are indeed getting pretty high. Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 All three of these new drive models from Seagate are Hellium filled. Also this is announced pricing. The pricing levels will slowly drop. The pricing is substantially better than the previous model from Seagate; dropped from $61/TB to $47/TB. Quote Link to comment
ashman70 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 My hope is these models force all drive prices to drop starting with the 8TB models. Quote Link to comment
garycase Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Price drops would indeed be nice I will say that regardless of the price, I couldn't be happier with the 8TB Reds ... these are REALLY nice drives that perform exceptionally well and run very cool. Quote Link to comment
jumperalex Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Price drops would indeed be nice I will say that regardless of the price, I couldn't be happier with the 8TB Reds ... these are REALLY nice drives that perform exceptionally well and run very cool. good to hear. I had planned on a pair of 4TB (parity + data) but now Im' tempted to step that up to the 8's especially after a little time for the 10's to put pressure no prices Quote Link to comment
gorbachev Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 And I just bought two more 6TB WDCs. I can't wait until the prices drop to competitive levels with 4TB and 6TB drives. It's pretty amazing how much storage capacity you can stuff into a home NAS device these days. With these drives I have a 180TB max capacity on my unRAID box. That's just insane. Quote Link to comment
testdasi Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 This will be the next HDD I buy for the server. Quote Link to comment
aptalca Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Thinking about 3 cycles of preclear makes my head hurt Quote Link to comment
BobPhoenix Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Thinking about 3 cycles of preclear makes my head hurt Put it in wait two+ weeks . Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Down to $449 for the NAS IronWolf model. Prices dropping already... Those saying preclear would take a while, the good news is it will be faster per TB than earlier drives since these are 7200rpm PMR with higher data density 1.429 TB. The older drives were typically 1.25 TB. Quote Link to comment
Uroth Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Anyone here on the forum that have purchased and tested an ironwolf yet in unRAID? http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/ironwolf/ Quote Link to comment
Sledgehamma Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Anyone here on the forum that have purchased and tested an ironwolf yet in unRAID? http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/ironwolf/ I just ordered one. I don't have an unRaid server anymore, but I still got a spare license. Will hook it up to my Laptop via USB docking station and will post preclear results. Quote Link to comment
ijuarez Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Anyone here on the forum that have purchased and tested an ironwolf yet in unRAID? http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/ironwolf/ I just ordered one. I don't have an unRaid server anymore, but I still got a spare license. Will hook it up to my Laptop via USB docking station and will post preclear results. how much did that cost you? Quote Link to comment
Sledgehamma Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Anyone here on the forum that have purchased and tested an ironwolf yet in unRAID? http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/ironwolf/ I just ordered one. I don't have an unRaid server anymore, but I still got a spare license. Will hook it up to my Laptop via USB docking station and will post preclear results. how much did that cost you? I ordered it on Amazon.de (had some coupons left) where it is 469€. Lowest price in Germany is around 440€ at the moment. It fell pretty fast after launch, but it seems to be stable at this price for now. Quote Link to comment
Uroth Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Tempted to buy. I am down to 8gb free space... But I need to get 2 of them since one needs to be the parity, urgh.. Quote Link to comment
Sledgehamma Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Got the drive today, running the preclearing now. Will report back when it is finished. See you in a few months Quote Link to comment
jtown Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Tempted to buy. I am down to 8gb free space... But I need to get 2 of them since one needs to be the parity, urgh.. 8gb? When I have 8gb of free space, I consider myself to be out of free space. But you don't have to buy both at once. Replace the parity drive then add the old parity drive as a new data drive. Unless you're out of ports. Then replace the smallest data drive with the old parity drive. Unless all the drives are then same size. Then you need two new drives. Quote Link to comment
Sledgehamma Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 preclear is finished: ========================================================================1.15 == invoked as: ./preclear_disk.sh /dev/sdc == ST10000VN0004-1ZD101 ZA206B9L == Disk /dev/sdc has been successfully precleared == with a starting sector of 1 == Ran 1 cycle == == Using :Read block size = 1003520 Bytes == Last Cycle's Pre Read Time : 19:51:21 (139 MB/s) == Last Cycle's Zeroing time : 15:50:45 (175 MB/s) == Last Cycle's Post Read Time : 39:39:30 (70 MB/s) == Last Cycle's Total Time : 75:22:36 == == Total Elapsed Time 75:22:36 == == Disk Start Temperature: 33C == == Current Disk Temperature: -->43<--C, == ============================================================================ ** Changed attributes in files: /tmp/smart_start_sdc /tmp/smart_finish_sdc ATTRIBUTE NEW_VAL OLD_VAL FAILURE_THRESHOLD STATUS RAW_VALUE Raw_Read_Error_Rate = 83 100 44 ok 208480736 Seek_Error_Rate = 74 100 45 ok 25147894 Spin_Retry_Count = 100 100 97 near_thresh 0 End-to-End_Error = 100 100 99 near_thresh 0 High_Fly_Writes = 96 100 0 ok 4 Airflow_Temperature_Cel = 57 67 40 near_thresh 43 Temperature_Celsius = 43 33 0 ok 43 Hardware_ECC_Recovered = 9 100 0 near_thresh 208480736 No SMART attributes are FAILING_NOW 0 sectors were pending re-allocation before the start of the preclear. 0 sectors were pending re-allocation after pre-read in cycle 1 of 1. 0 sectors were pending re-allocation after zero of disk in cycle 1 of 1. 0 sectors are pending re-allocation at the end of the preclear, the number of sectors pending re-allocation did not change. 0 sectors had been re-allocated before the start of the preclear. 0 sectors are re-allocated at the end of the preclear, the number of sectors re-allocated did not change. ============================================================================ Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I don't like how the Hardware ECC recovered dropped down to 9 from 100 when failureis at 0. Quote Link to comment
RobJ Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 preclear is finished: ========================================================================1.15 == invoked as: ./preclear_disk.sh /dev/sdc == ST10000VN0004-1ZD101 ZA206B9L == Disk /dev/sdc has been successfully precleared == with a starting sector of 1 == Ran 1 cycle == == Using :Read block size = 1003520 Bytes == Last Cycle's Pre Read Time : 19:51:21 (139 MB/s) == Last Cycle's Zeroing time : 15:50:45 (175 MB/s) == Last Cycle's Post Read Time : 39:39:30 (70 MB/s) == Last Cycle's Total Time : 75:22:36 == == Total Elapsed Time 75:22:36 == == Disk Start Temperature: 33C == == Current Disk Temperature: -->43<--C, == ============================================================================ ** Changed attributes in files: /tmp/smart_start_sdc /tmp/smart_finish_sdc ATTRIBUTE NEW_VAL OLD_VAL FAILURE_THRESHOLD STATUS RAW_VALUE Raw_Read_Error_Rate = 83 100 44 ok 208480736 Seek_Error_Rate = 74 100 45 ok 25147894 Spin_Retry_Count = 100 100 97 near_thresh 0 End-to-End_Error = 100 100 99 near_thresh 0 High_Fly_Writes = 96 100 0 ok 4 Airflow_Temperature_Cel = 57 67 40 near_thresh 43 Temperature_Celsius = 43 33 0 ok 43 Hardware_ECC_Recovered = 9 100 0 near_thresh 208480736 No SMART attributes are FAILING_NOW 0 sectors were pending re-allocation before the start of the preclear. 0 sectors were pending re-allocation after pre-read in cycle 1 of 1. 0 sectors were pending re-allocation after zero of disk in cycle 1 of 1. 0 sectors are pending re-allocation at the end of the preclear, the number of sectors pending re-allocation did not change. 0 sectors had been re-allocated before the start of the preclear. 0 sectors are re-allocated at the end of the preclear, the number of sectors re-allocated did not change. ============================================================================ I've responded about its SMART report over here. Quote Link to comment
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