jonp Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 One of the things you can expect to look forward to from us at Lime Technology going forward will be more and more videos to showcase the power of unRAID 6 as well as guides on how to get the most out of your hardware. To kick things off, I just published a new video to youtube on streaming Windows virtual desktops on unRAID 6. Check out how to get a high-quality user experience for interacting with Windows apps using other devices that are NOT Windows-based. Got questions? Post them here or on youtube and be sure to share with your friends! Link to comment
abeksis Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 is there a guide how to install windows and vm? Link to comment
RobJ Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Look about 6 lines up from your question. Link to comment
soana Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 RDP OS ? Does something like that even exist - where I can have a small/quiet computer in the living room that boots to this OS and then RDP's into the Unraid Windows VM? Link to comment
JonathanM Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 RDP OS ? Does something like that even exist - where I can have a small/quiet computer in the living room that boots to this OS and then RDP's into the Unraid Windows VM? No experience with it, but a little googling came up with this. http://thinstation.github.io/thinstation/ Link to comment
CHBMB Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 That's how I've been using my VMs, nice to know I've been doing something right. A good RDP client for Linux is Remmina in case anyone is looking for one. Link to comment
ars92 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Right now i have a vdi for windows 7 saved on my unraid box and i use virtualbox to access it,so u can imagine just how slow it is to do anything that way. I mainly use it to strip the drm from itunes m4vs and put them into the array. Will definitely be changing to this method of running vm soon as its gonna be a HUGE boost for what im using it for!! Link to comment
CHBMB Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Yeah, I came back to Unraid at beta 12 I think from WHS2011 and used to use VirtualBox in WHS, thought "Great, there's a plugin for VirtualBox for Unraid" then I found KVM, still haven't installed VirtualBox... Link to comment
abs0lut.zer0 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 One of the things you can expect to look forward to from us at Lime Technology going forward will be more and more videos to showcase the power of unRAID 6 as well as guides on how to get the most out of your hardware. thank you thank you thank you look forward to more... :D :D especially beginners starting from scratch and how to achieve the all singing all dancing kvm gaming docker unraid box as showcased on CAT5 tech TV... Link to comment
snoopy86 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 There should be videos for most popular stuff that beginners would do (docker as most important i guess). Videos are easy to make and help a lot more than reading text. Link to comment
jbrodriguez Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 One of the things you can expect to look forward to from us at Lime Technology going forward will be more and more videos to showcase the power of unRAID 6 as well as guides on how to get the most out of your hardware. To kick things off, I just published a new video to youtube on streaming Windows virtual desktops on unRAID 6. Check out how to get a high-quality user experience for interacting with Windows apps using other devices that are NOT Windows-based. Got questions? Post them here or on youtube and be sure to share with your friends! jonp, have you tried gaming under rdp ? Is it an acceptable experience ? Link to comment
jonp Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 One of the things you can expect to look forward to from us at Lime Technology going forward will be more and more videos to showcase the power of unRAID 6 as well as guides on how to get the most out of your hardware. To kick things off, I just published a new video to youtube on streaming Windows virtual desktops on unRAID 6. Check out how to get a high-quality user experience for interacting with Windows apps using other devices that are NOT Windows-based. Got questions? Post them here or on youtube and be sure to share with your friends! jonp, have you tried gaming under rdp ? Is it an acceptable experience ? You're missing out on your chance to earn a free pro key by asking here instead of on our live twitter chat happening now (http://tweetchat.com/room/unraid6released)! For streaming games, there are far better solutions such as Steam In Home Streaming, NVIDIA GameStream, Razer Forge, and Project Moonlight. Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 One of the things you can expect to look forward to from us at Lime Technology going forward will be more and more videos to showcase the power of unRAID 6 as well as guides on how to get the most out of your hardware. To kick things off, I just published a new video to youtube on streaming Windows virtual desktops on unRAID 6. Check out how to get a high-quality user experience for interacting with Windows apps using other devices that are NOT Windows-based. Got questions? Post them here or on youtube and be sure to share with your friends! jonp, have you tried gaming under rdp ? Is it an acceptable experience ? You're missing out on your chance to earn a free pro key by asking here instead of on our live twitter chat happening now (http://tweetchat.com/room/unraid6released)! For streaming games, there are far better solutions such as Steam In Home Streaming, NVIDIA GameStream, Razer Forge, and Project Moonlight. they're probably clicking check for updates every 30 seconds on the plugins page. , lol. Link to comment
Squid Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 they're probably clicking check for updates every 30 seconds on the plugins page. , lol. I'm surprised you're not asking for shoutouts... Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 they're probably clicking check for updates every 30 seconds on the plugins page. , lol. I'm surprised you're not asking for shoutouts... you have me pegged as a narcisistic attention whore.... it's like you can see inside my head and stuff. Link to comment
bertrandr Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Speaking as someone who works in IT, one of the things I do is help seismic engineers run heavy 3D multi-monitor applications remotely via 3D VDI technology. -RDP for gaming at home will not make you happy. Assuming you have the <fast enough> network bandwidth and appropriate HW in the remote desktop -Yes you will probably be able to see, hear and interact with the remote game, but the experience will be very "flat". Imagine watching one of those illegal recorded CAM versions of your favorite 3D action blockbuster movie. Yes you can technically watch and "see" the movie, but is it even close to watching it in person? RDP is not intended to "stream" that kind of graphic intensity to remote screens. You can play Solitaire or Minesweeper all day! but COD (if it runs at all) will leave you wanting more.... The servers, 10G network, GPU's and special software needed in the enterprise data-center costs many $10's of thousand$ for just for a few users and a few apps... You best option for remote 3D game streaming is to look into a Steam box and Steam's remote In-Home streaming technology. -I am ;-) My 2c, BR Link to comment
jonp Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 Speaking as someone who works in IT, one of the things I do is help seismic engineers run heavy 3D multi-monitor applications remotely via 3D VDI technology. -RDP for gaming at home will not make you happy. Assuming you have the <fast enough> network bandwidth and appropriate HW in the remote desktop -Yes you will probably be able to see, hear and interact with the remote game, but the experience will be very "flat". Imagine watching one of those illegal recorded CAM versions of your favorite 3D action blockbuster movie. Yes you can technically watch and "see" the movie, but is it even close to watching it in person? RDP is not intended to "stream" that kind of graphic intensity to remote screens. You can play Solitaire or Minesweeper all day! but COD (if it runs at all) will leave you wanting more.... The servers, 10G network, GPU's and special software needed in the enterprise data-center costs many $10's of thousand$ for just for a few users and a few apps... You best option for remote 3D game streaming is to look into a Steam box and Steam's remote In-Home streaming technology. -I am ;-) My 2c, BR Just a few things I wanted to comment on to explain, and I'm glad to see a VDI guy here, as that is the industry I came from (virtual desktops / applications). RDP for gaming is technically possible, but requires the use of Microsoft RemoteFX, which requires the host to use Hyper-V, and may have more restrictions on supported hardware. In short: no remotefx = no gaming over RDP. Games won't even launch because DirectX cannot initialize over RDP. Now as far as Steam Box goes, the major downside is that SteamOS will only be able to stream games that are available on Linux. Yes, Linux support for gaming has gotten better, but there is still a massive difference in the amount of available games between Windows and Linux. For that reason, I would recommend anyone serious about streaming games in the home look at doing this from Windows. SteamOS, however, is ideal for then receiving games streamed to it which can be from EITHER Windows or SteamOS. So with unRAID, we can either stream games from a Windows VM to devices like the Steam Link coming out this November, or we can stream games to a SteamOS VM from another system in our home that has a more capable GPU. Hopefully this clarified things a bit and extended on some of the really good points made by bertrandr. Link to comment
bertrandr Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Speaking as someone who works in IT, one of the things I do is help seismic engineers run heavy 3D multi-monitor applications remotely via 3D VDI technology. -RDP for gaming at home will not make you happy. Assuming you have the <fast enough> network bandwidth and appropriate HW in the remote desktop -Yes you will probably be able to see, hear and interact with the remote game, but the experience will be very "flat". Imagine watching one of those illegal recorded CAM versions of your favorite 3D action blockbuster movie. Yes you can technically watch and "see" the movie, but is it even close to watching it in person? RDP is not intended to "stream" that kind of graphic intensity to remote screens. You can play Solitaire or Minesweeper all day! but COD (if it runs at all) will leave you wanting more.... The servers, 10G network, GPU's and special software needed in the enterprise data-center costs many $10's of thousand$ for just for a few users and a few apps... You best option for remote 3D game streaming is to look into a Steam box and Steam's remote In-Home streaming technology. -I am ;-) My 2c, BR Just a few things I wanted to comment on to explain, and I'm glad to see a VDI guy here, as that is the industry I came from (virtual desktops / applications). RDP for gaming is technically possible, but requires the use of Microsoft RemoteFX, which requires the host to use Hyper-V, and may have more restrictions on supported hardware. In short: no remotefx = no gaming over RDP. Games won't even launch because DirectX cannot initialize over RDP. Now as far as Steam Box goes, the major downside is that SteamOS will only be able to stream games that are available on Linux. Yes, Linux support for gaming has gotten better, but there is still a massive difference in the amount of available games between Windows and Linux. For that reason, I would recommend anyone serious about streaming games in the home look at doing this from Windows. SteamOS, however, is ideal for then receiving games streamed to it which can be from EITHER Windows or SteamOS. So with unRAID, we can either stream games from a Windows VM to devices like the Steam Link coming out this November, or we can stream games to a SteamOS VM from another system in our home that has a more capable GPU. Hopefully this clarified things a bit and extended on some of the really good points made by bertrandr. Great points -thanks. I'll admit I am more of a "hardware guy" -currently working for a global manufacturer as a datacenter SE. Back in the day <lol> however I was deep into VMware, Citrix and early versions of Hyper-V. I will have to look closer into RemoteFX -sounds interesting! Regardless, being able to stream games from unRAID seems like a great next step. The NAS, HTPC and Docker capabilities seem basically fully baked, once the VM (especially GPU passthrough) abilities are stable unRAID will make an awesome home / SOHO server / "media & entertainment appliance"... I love it! My 2c, BR Link to comment
CHBMB Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 jonp, now you've got lots of time on your hands now V6 has been released Reckon it'd be a good idea to perhaps do a video tutorial on how to setup docker from beginning to getting first container installed? I've pretty much got it sussed now , but it has always conceptually been a difficulty with the various mount points and mappings.. Link to comment
jonp Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 jonp, now you've got lots of time on your hands now V6 has been released Reckon it'd be a good idea to perhaps do a video tutorial on how to setup docker from beginning to getting first container installed? I've pretty much got it sussed now , but it has always conceptually been a difficulty with the various mount points and mappings.. It's on the to-do list. Doing this somewhat chronologically. Check out the playlist I've already started: So far, we have a vid up for installing using a PC, installing using a mac, configuring your BIOS, and just today, initial setup from the webGui. Next up are Users and Shares, then Docker, and then VMs. Link to comment
bonienl Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Excellent video, clear and concise. Is this video already available on the Limetech site, perhaps a section videos can be added ? I was explaining a new user the other day how to do an unRAID installation, but referring to this video will make it so much easier. Link to comment
scytherbladez Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 and just today, initial setup from the webGui. There's no mention of the time(frame) needed for drives to format, in the video or the "getting started" page. Is there any reason why this is being omitted? Link to comment
trurl Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 and just today, initial setup from the webGui. There's no mention of the time(frame) needed for drives to format, in the video or the "getting started" page. Is there any reason why this is being omitted? Do you mean the time needed for formatting, which is not very much, or do you really mean the time needed to clear or preclear a drive? Link to comment
jonp Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 and just today, initial setup from the webGui. There's no mention of the time(frame) needed for drives to format, in the video or the "getting started" page. Is there any reason why this is being omitted? Because the amount of time can vary based on the disk you're formatting and the filesystem you are using. Link to comment
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